(March 8, 2017 at 1:44 am)Nonpareil Wrote:(March 8, 2017 at 1:05 am)Godschild Wrote: As you can see by my questions I have serious doubt.
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And there you have it, folks. The ontological argument fails to convince a theist that it is even valid, let alone sound.
I honestly do find it rather fascinating that theistic philosophers keep trying to revive the damn thing, considering how dead on arrival it was and how little persuasive power it possesses today. Hell, even Thomas Aquinas rejected it as nonsense, though his personal justification was a bit suspect, since he had to find a way to kick it to the curb without also hobbling his own attempts to prove God's existence through philosophy.
It's like if Frankenstein insisted on building his monster out of only the worst parts available, and when the tortured, misshapen thing lurched out of the laboratory only to promptly collapse on the doorstep, stone dead, he kept trying to drag it back onto the slab for another go. It's kind of sad, and a bit funny, and honestly just completely boggling.
My questioning of the OP was to find out what he/she actually was thinking or if there was any thought at all. As for the argument itself that's for philosophers to throw around. God and Christianity has nothing to do with philosophy, the God of the Bible is real and....Well philosophy is more or less an over active imagination.
Actually you are presuming much about me and what I believe about God and his abilities from one short statement put forward as a challenge to the OP. You are in essence doing what you accused Stevell of doing, please don't play both sides of the fence.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.


