(March 9, 2017 at 6:14 pm)Nonpareil Wrote:If you want to consider the above examples subjective, then so be it. I can't argue with someone who just says the same things over and over and over again the same way even when presented with an argument that philosophers of all types consider to be sound. I'm done.(March 9, 2017 at 5:49 pm)SteveII Wrote: No, you confuse assessing comparative value with a "value judgement". They are not the same thing.
No, Steve, I don't. I didn't bring comparing two subjective values into it at all, because it doesn't matter. I am simply pointing out that the subjective judgment of "greatness" cannot have a maximum value, as there is no objective means of measurement that can be said to apply, let alone one that has a maximum possible value. You can compare how "great" you think two movies are and say that you consider one greater, but there is no "maximal greatness" that a movie could achieve, because "greatness" is not quantifiable.
The concept is incoherent and meaningless.
(March 9, 2017 at 5:49 pm)SteveII Wrote: Regarding the property of seeing, is it better to see or not to see? The property of hearing, is it better to hear or not hear? Regarding the property of knowledge, is it better to know something or not know something? Regarding the property of physical ability, is it better to have the power to actualize or no power to actualize? Then there are degrees: Is it better to see near and far or only near? Hear near and far or only near?
That depends on what you consider "better".
Which is subjective, as above.
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