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Poll: Can Intelligent Design be considered Science?
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Yes, and has powerful evidence to support it
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Yes, but I don't agree with it
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No, design is not testable
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No, but I agree with it
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No, religious dogma
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Only if science abandons its presumption of naturalism
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It depends
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Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?
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RE: Intelligent Design as a scientific theory?
(March 25, 2017 at 2:46 pm)TheAtheologian Wrote:
(March 25, 2017 at 7:53 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Specified complexity as it has been advanced by proponents like William Dembski is known to be pseudoscientific.  Its claims to mathematical rigor are false and it depends upon unspecified statistical operations.  Moreover, it's a thinly veiled cover for religious speculations as the unspecified designer is presumed to be God, and not a naturalistic speculation like panspermia.  This takes it outside the realm of legitimate scientific speculation.  At bottom of the specified complexity argument is the analogy that because human designers produce artifacts possessing specified complexity, the existence of specified complexity is an indication of a non-natural process (design).  This ignores the fact that human capacity for design is supposedly naturalistic in origin as having been the product of evolution.

Irreducible complexity is nothing more than an argument from ignorance and thus doesn't qualify as a scientific hypothesis.  It, too, postulates a supernatural designer by necessity.

Contrary to your claim that ID proponents do not push teaching ID in schools, one of the best funded organizations, the Discovery Institute, does just that by promoting its covert campaign to "Teach The Controversy."

Yes, I know they want evolution to be taught as a controversy, but currently are not for pushing ID into public schools.

Ever wonder why the ID assholes aren't also pushing the stork theory for where babies come from?  Why is creationism such a line in the sand?  I don't recall the alleged jesus wasting a lot of time discussing it.  I mean compared to the amount of time he spent driving out "demons."  Maybe we should insist on classes in driving out demons in medical school, too?
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RE: Intelligent Design as a scientific theory? - by Minimalist - March 26, 2017 at 12:23 am

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