(March 30, 2017 at 9:48 am)Drich Wrote:(March 22, 2017 at 11:55 pm)Polaris Wrote: ....about my comments years ago stating Christians really did not cherry pick. I used to think that atheists making derogatory comments that many Christians cherry pick as being made up and atheists merely lashing out against Christians. I mean sure, cherry picking 5-10% of the Bible especially about rules from the Old Testament (such as taking a day off of work or not wearing multiple fabrics) was OK but I honestly had no idea that some Christians would cherry pick to the point they don't even believe in any part of the Bible or throw out the 75% of the Bible that scares them.
And if you are wondering (and I don't fool myself, I am pretty confident you don't care about what I have to say), this is the Facebook page that convinced me you guys were right (Not The Kind of Christian). This is someone so insecure in their beliefs that they don't yet know their political/cultural beliefs (like promoting homosexuality) are not compatible with the Bible (the "but Jesus was so kind" type of people). And they are so many more pages it seems of people who have yet to state their views are truly incompatible with the Bible.
Are these cultural Christians who were brought up in a Christian household who are too scared to admit they are actually atheists?
For example this a passage from the Bible. It's from 1 John. While 1:7 is my favorite verse (my signature), I know the surrounding verses are much less rosy.
"If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us."
This is their happy feel-good, BS version they will tell you while omitting all the negative text. If they post this version to you, they are purposefully committing sections of the Bible and are, in essence, lying to you.
"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
You are aware not everyone cherry picks right? That just because you or chirstians you know can't reconcile the whole of scripture does not mean others can't. It simply means your version of Christianity is not complete.
For instance, in Christianity/Biblical Christian no one can claim to be without sin yet we are still all saved. How? Because the book of Romans goes into great detail explaining that out righteousness is not dependent on where we sin or not. Our salvation is based on whether Christ did or not.
Paul tells us over and over we are all slaves to sin. This means we will never stop sinning. That means we can stop beating ourselves up over sin as it relates to salvation. As no one can master or conquer what controls/own him.
YES YOU DO,
Drich, there is not ONE religion on the face of the planet as an umbrella label that does not have competing sub sects and individuals that cant agree as to how to follow their holy writings. EVERYONE thinks they are not cherry picking.
If you had something universal you could beat everyone to the patent office and sell your product in every nation. Religion is based on false perception, cherry picking and confirmation bias.
Humans like to claim to be good, like to claim to have the patent on morality. Most humans get sold their religions at birth. Ask a Sunni, they will claim they got the correct interpretation of the Koran and are not cherry picking. Ask a Shiite they will also claim they are not cherry picking. Ask a Tibet Buddhist, they will claim they are not cherry picking. Ask a Chinese Buddhist they will claim they are not cherry picking. Ask a Japanese Shinto Buddhist, they will claim they are not cherry picking. As a Obama voting Baptist they will claim they are not cherry picking. Ask a Trump voting baptist they will claim they are not cherry picking. Ask an Irish Catholic same thing, ask a Irish protestant, same thing.
7 billion humans and magically, lucky us we were lucky enough to run into you. Nope sorry, you are cherry picking.
