(March 30, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Drich Wrote:(March 30, 2017 at 11:50 am)vorlon13 Wrote: As for those feeling Jesus doesn't have 'sufficient backup' for His admonition on divorce/remarriage to really be something He was serious about, I note Malachi records God (His Father for our posters and visitors from Rio Linda) stating He HATES divorce. Significantly, that admonition is in the Old Testament. One might conclude an Eternal and Unchanging God might just have inspired His Holy scriptures to read precisely what He wants on this occasion, at least.
I would advise EXTREME caution for 'sincere' believers who nevertheless feel they need a divorce and/or a subsequent remarriage. I'd also counsel profound suspicion of any (supposedly) Christian denomination/schism that is any way 'soft' on divorce. And especially the ones that treat remarriage as a sacrament.
As for a subsequent (LOL, or prior!) proclamation of belief in the death and resurrection of Christ from a divorce whore, I'd take that with copious skepticism. That is just the sort of thing one would expect to hear from unsaved disciples of Satan.
No one is trying to trivialize your understanding of sin.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV
Each of us has our own convictions. Most of it though is rooted in a pay to play version of Christianity. Which God can indeed work with. If you are honest about what you believe and know you limites and try to abide by them.
That said just as you can quote you never divorce passages. Know that the same unchanging God also included a provision for divorce With the allowance for remarriage despite How he felt. What's more Jesus Himself taught the passage that delivers this message.
Now understand two thing if you think your interpretation is correct that is the one you will be judge by. How ever also understand there is scripture that teaches the oppsite that must not be discarded but reconciled with what you already know.
That is what this whole thread is about ..cherry picking. or only looking at the verses that favor your idea of God. I point to a passage that should change your verion of God a great deal. like it or not it is in the bible and if we look to serve the God of the bible we must be willing to let God our idea of God and follow the God the bible points to.
(March 30, 2017 at 12:02 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yep, most of our 7 billion humans have a religion and all of them argue over which one is the right one. But lucky us Drich is the hero of all 7 billion of us.
Because I know none of us are right. Well not just me.. there are a lot of people who know that what we understand about God is not what saves us. However seeming those who in their minds had to worship the right version of God seem to now fill the atheist ranks, while people who knew their version of God had to remain fluid as it is impossible to have the right version.. Go on in the faith.. Meaning I might be one of only a few or in your word one of a billion. because you don't even know how broken our understanding of God was.
(March 30, 2017 at 2:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Bullshit.
Remember, of the two of us you think this happy horseshit is the spoken word of your fucking god.
Keep picking, asshole.
Am I a OT Jew?? is that what you are saying? or do you still not understand the OT law (and the bits including stoning) only pertained to OT Jews!!!
There is no law in the OT or NT, just a bunch of barked orders. Dictators like Hitler and Stalin and Kim Jong Un have laws too, they all had traffic lights and prisons too.
Your God character barks orders, that is not law, that is dictation. In the real civil west WE consent to our laws and we can change our laws and we can hold our politicians, judges, law enforcement to account and even our President. Your God character as written does not need our permission via vote to govern us. We cannot have your God Character impeached or charged with crimes. That is the behavior of a king, a dictator, not an elected official who needs our permission to write laws for us.