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Argument from justice.
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RE: Argument from justice.
(March 30, 2017 at 8:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Justice is a human concept which changes as the times change, MK.  In England:

https://theukdatabase.com/uk-child-abuse...ent-in-uk/


Quote:at its height the criminal law included some 220 crimes punishable by death, including “being in the company of Gypsies for one month”, “strong evidence of malice in a child aged 7–14 years of age” and “blacking the face or using a disguise whilst committing a crime”. Many of these offences had been introduced to protect the property of the wealthy classes that emerged during the first half of the 18th century, a notable example being the Black Act of 1723, which created 50 capital offences for various acts of theft and poaching

This was considered "justice" when enacted yet by 1964 capital punishment had been abolished.

And they managed to do all that without fucking allah.  Imagine that.

To condemn that as bad justice or absurd justice ironically needs justice to be something other than just a human construct.

(March 30, 2017 at 8:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Justice is a human concept which changes as the times change, MK.  In England:

https://theukdatabase.com/uk-child-abuse...ent-in-uk/


Quote:at its height the criminal law included some 220 crimes punishable by death, including “being in the company of Gypsies for one month”, “strong evidence of malice in a child aged 7–14 years of age” and “blacking the face or using a disguise whilst committing a crime”. Many of these offences had been introduced to protect the property of the wealthy classes that emerged during the first half of the 18th century, a notable example being the Black Act of 1723, which created 50 capital offences for various acts of theft and poaching

This was considered "justice" when enacted yet by 1964 capital punishment had been abolished.

And they managed to do all that without fucking allah.  Imagine that.

To condemn that as bad justice or absurd justice ironically needs justice to be something other than just a human construct.

(March 30, 2017 at 8:55 pm)Jesster Wrote: Wrong. I understand multiple takes on justice. Yours looks like gibberish and is not at all universal. Instead of just repeating it again and again in the exact same form, try clarifying it. What do you mean by everything's "due"? What do you mean by "natural law"? This is why I can't go anywhere with your argument. Every time you use a phrase, I'm stuck here puzzling through what you mean by it. I'm going to be playing the definition game all year with you at this rate.

Also, stop with the argument from authority with Plato. Who said something does not matter.

Take a course on political philosophy, I will be surprised if you don't come across this definition.
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Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 8:05 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 8:08 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 8:09 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 8:11 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 8:16 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Minimalist - March 30, 2017 at 8:36 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 8:19 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 8:23 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 8:27 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 8:37 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 8:39 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 8:46 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 8:47 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Minimalist - March 30, 2017 at 8:55 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 8:56 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 8:59 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 9:00 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 9:01 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 9:04 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 9:06 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 9:09 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 9:16 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 9:23 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 9:27 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 9:28 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 9:29 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 9:32 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 9:34 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 9:36 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 9:38 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 9:36 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 9:39 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 9:42 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 9:43 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 9:45 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Amarok - March 30, 2017 at 9:50 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 9:54 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 10:00 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 10:08 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 10:18 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 8:55 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Amarok - March 30, 2017 at 9:38 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by paulpablo - March 30, 2017 at 9:44 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 30, 2017 at 9:52 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by paulpablo - March 30, 2017 at 10:52 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by MysticKnight - March 31, 2017 at 8:49 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by bennyboy - March 31, 2017 at 9:25 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by paulpablo - March 31, 2017 at 11:24 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by bennyboy - March 31, 2017 at 1:34 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 30, 2017 at 9:53 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by bennyboy - March 30, 2017 at 10:18 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Angrboda - March 30, 2017 at 10:41 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Astreja - March 31, 2017 at 12:55 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by Cyberman - March 31, 2017 at 5:44 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by Jesster - March 31, 2017 at 5:55 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by Cyberman - March 31, 2017 at 7:57 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by Pat Mustard - April 1, 2017 at 5:13 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by FatAndFaithless - March 31, 2017 at 8:43 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by Cyberman - March 31, 2017 at 9:49 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by Pat Mustard - March 31, 2017 at 10:38 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by Whateverist - March 31, 2017 at 10:53 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by The Grand Nudger - March 31, 2017 at 10:58 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by Faith No More - March 31, 2017 at 11:16 am
RE: Argument from justice. - by LastPoet - March 31, 2017 at 2:18 pm
RE: Argument from justice. - by Cyberman - March 31, 2017 at 2:53 pm

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