(March 30, 2017 at 10:00 pm)Jesster Wrote:(March 30, 2017 at 9:54 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The objective process will have a relationship to the subjective experience of human love, which proves your assertion that all subjective experiences ARE ONLY human constructs to be false.
Woah, pump the breaks. You changed the subject there. You were talking about love before. Now you're talking about the experience we have of love. Our experience of an objective process is subjective based on our personal perception of it.
That does not disprove me in any way, MK. We construct our own subjective opinion of things and we are human, making them effectively human constructs.
I asked you if subjective things ARE ONLY human constructs?
Naturally, by your definition, even in the framework of love being from God and we act according to it, it would be a human construct. The same is true of justice.
But the context you said was to make it SOLELY human constructs.
Min stated to say it was not from the divine but rather human constructs.
If we are defining simply to be things humans experience and come to believe subjectively with relationship to objective processess, then aside from chemical processes then they can be spiritual processes emanating from the divine.
The goal post is now moved to be saying, there is non-human contructs at work with these beliefs and experiences, but no divine. What has been proven is that it's not simply something we made up which was the original intention of min's post.
See the context.... words have multiple meanings, and I am going to put on you ignore only because I don't have the time to play these games and would rather have a meaningful discussion than the discussions I have with you if you continue with these dishonest approaches.