I wanted to apologize as a Christian....

[Drich]

Then you need to argue with other Christians, you are about the only Christian I have ever heard make this argument.

I have.. for a very long time. What I found?? Can't Save the 'saved.' People love their traditions more than they love God.

But that scares the shit out of me buddy, I like having laws against things like child rape and murder and robbery.

and we have them in society. As far as Christian goes we have no laws but we do have just 2 commands. Love God with all of our being love our neighbor as our selves. In these two commands all the 'laws' are built. That said these are not rules/they don't have a minimum required effort. they are guide lines based on your own abilities and limitations. God is not holding us to standards as he did, he is telling us do our best and can judge what is and is not our best. Like the greatest command Love God with all you Heart Soul Spirit and Strength. inessence with all that you are love God. That does not require once ounce more effort than what you have to give. So many times in our religious pasts we are required to give God far more than what we have.

Huge difference. between a rule/law/set standard and our two commands. Again not new as Jesus Himself set this precedent.

I like having seat belt laws and speed limits. But if you like a no rules society great, try Somalia, it is run completely by mostly warlords with a very corrupt government.

Does being or living like a Somali warlord consistent with love your neighbor as yourself?

This is simply new word salad and the same attempt with different word arrangements I have seen before where Christians try to separate the NT from the OT, and we still have to continually point out the NT contradictions where the Jesus character DOES say he came to fill the OT laws. 

Not contradiction.. The Law is not just a list of do's and don'ts it also the rules concerning atonement, and forgiveness of sin. To complete the law is to full fill the need for sacrifice once and for all leaving a perpetual system of forgiveness behind. The law (the do's and Don't's) as Christ said remains. Even Paul identifies with the law, and expounds on what Christ teaches and he tells us the law serves one purpose now and that is to identify sin. So that people are moved to repent. But once we receive atonement, we are no longer judged by what we do or do not do. Christ judges us now based on whether or not we 'know Him." To know Him is to live and try and be like him by loving God with all that we are and our neighbors as ourselves. that's it that's all. The rest of it is 'control' of man by man. Remember the law was just more than a list of right and wrong things the law as it is referred to also includes the rules of atonement, once the final or complete measure of atonement was reached by Christ then the purpose of the law changed. As in it is not what we are measured by, but as a means to identify sin in everyone. If we have sin then we should move to atone for it though Christ once we do the law of sin no long applies to define our righteousness. Meaning our righteousness is not based on our lives but how Christ lived his.

Still does not matter to me anyway because he/daddy/skitzo at the end of the book goes right back to being a vindictive bully who throws everyone who didn't kiss his ass into eternal torture.

Here's the thing sport. you wrongfully assume all are born under God. All who live are 'seed' of God. There is a parable Jesus teaches in luke that says 'a land owner'/God had a field planted and an enemy during the night planted weeds along side the good wheat. The land owner was ask what shall we do should we pull up the weeds the land owner said no, you might also uproot the wheat. Both are to grow together and at the harvest the wheat be separated from the weeds.

Meaning we are not all of the same stock, not all are Humans with souls Some are human with what ever the devil fills bodies with.

What does this mean? "We" are the wheat... And if it helps you think of the worst of the worst. Those in whom there are no redemption. Those who came to this country, went to school made friends, made themselves apart of the culture and then flew into the world trade center. The type of person who would kill you no questions asked because of the part of the world you come from.

You've gotta get past the idea that everyone is like you or sees themselves as "good people.' Do not lament for the wicked, for they would not think twice to destroy you your kids or anyone else. Simply seek righteousness where ever it may lead. Trust that God is not going to destroy the innocent. just make sure you are not 'off sides before the ball is snapped.'

The only thing I give you credit here for doing is creating new word salad, new lipstick on a pig argument to justify the same arguments.

Actually if you care to look I've never said anything new. Jesus said these things (And yes I can give you literal book chapter and verse when and where he said them) They may sound new because the 'church' has silenced much of what Christ says.

That book was written in a very tribal time when city states ruled by kings competed for resources and back then the mortality rate was really high so back then it was far more important to be loyal to the state king you lived under, but that was also the case in polytheism too. 

Check again. The first 5 books were written under the end of a world dominating empire. and the last of it under the Roman empire. none of the conditions you describe are true.

That book is not the good book you want it to be.

I am not in a position to judge good bad or ugly here. It is simply a book/map to find God.

You want to paint me as mean or bigoted because the thought of being wrong frightens you.

I never said you are a bigot. I simply am pointing out how wrong you are concerning the religion of Christianity and how it is lived out in the bible.
I am also pointing out that there are those who can reconcile and live by it's word and not stand in contradiction with any of it. I think that stark contrast makes you think I view you harshly. I don't. I see you as a potential causality of the church. So embittered by what you know does not work you can't see the great part that does indeed work.

No, I am giving you the psychology in time frame for that time because humans didn't know any better and that is what they thought at the time as being right. That is why you see words like "lord" and "master" and "kingdom" in that book, because that is the way humans lived back then. It has no reflection of modern science nor does it reflect our far more humane western concept of pluralism. It is a tribal book written to draw the reader in to defend the tribe.

So much potential...
wasted.

For me the answer is obvious as to the reason you see the word selection you find in the bible. such as Lord master kingdom was not a concern to the first century Roman/person who lived under rome. Those are not even the terms of the roman hierarchy.

I know for you common sense told you that was a logical extension as to the nature of the bible source material... Here's the problem sport. As I pointed out the bible was not written under that hierarchy. meaning those terms in the original language mean anything. The point? if those word mean nothing to those who wrote out the bible in koine Greek.. then where did those terms come from? They came from the translators. You only have words like lord, master, kingdom because you speak English doom-as! NOT Because the bible was written with those words in it!