RE: I wanted to apologize as a Christian....
March 31, 2017 at 2:35 pm
(This post was last modified: March 31, 2017 at 2:38 pm by Brian37.)
(March 31, 2017 at 2:15 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(March 31, 2017 at 1:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote: NO, not belonging to a club does not matter to me. You like someone who goes to a church still fall for the suspension of disbelief which still requires buying before insuring quality of facts. You are religious too, you simply don't belong to an official club.
It takes no brains to swallow a religion or God.
Now, don't sit here and lie to me, and answer the question, is your position that of a generic god, or does this "God" come from a book with a long tradition of being printed?
You cant separate Yoda from Star Wars. You can certainly watch the movie at home sure, you don't have to watch it with others in a group. But Yoda started out because someone wrote the script.
Now unless you have a generic god, I am betting your use of "God" comes from the traditions of Abraham, which sorry, does make you religious. "I am not like the others"..... Yes you are. Watering down a naked assertion does not separate that naked assertion from its origins.
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I already made It clear to you that when I speak of religion I'm speaking of the organized system, If you bothered reading the bible you see that the "religious spirit" was an evil one. Was not the religious establishment responsible for the death of Jesus?
The idea of God existed long before the bible, or Abraham for that matter, since apparently you don't realize that the book of Job (who was not a Jew) is the oldest book in the bible.
Nope, you not being attached to a building or following an official club doesn't matter. If you watch Star Wars at home and justify Yoda as being real, you are STILL religious.
The other nonsense dodge we get is "I am not religious, I am spiritual". Same argument different semantics different word salad to justify a naked assertion.
I don't care Job being a character in a book of myth does not make magic babies real nor do humans survive rigor mortis. Outside the books of Abraham there are much older religions regardless.
Of course your bible mentions non Jews. It is a very typical tactic in world religion history for a splinter sect to incorporate old social norms and even plop in old historical characters to entice the reader into joining the new splinter sect. That is how the former polytheistic lesser god Yahweh of the Canaanites went on to become the monotheistic god of the OT and bible. The splinter sect Hebrews got tired of the polytheism, nothing more. So they stole the polytheistic Yahweh character and elevated his status to the only God. Before that successful marketing and eventual defeat of Canaanite polytheism El was the head and top God.
If you look at the history of Buddhism, you will also see in it's early mythology it too incorporates prior motifs and ideas from Hinduism which is far older.
Religions dont succeed because they are true or required, they succeed merely because enough people buy into them. Religion succeeds for the same reason any other product succeeds, marketing.
When the earliest car companies started in America, there were thousands of competing car companies. Even Henry Ford had employees who left and went on to start their own car companies. Religion competes just like Coke and Pepsi. Coke will come out with a cherry flavored soda, Pepsi, not being one to be outdone, will create a similar product to compete.
New religions start like this. Even the Rasta religion is a mix of African Jewish/Christianity.