(March 31, 2017 at 2:51 pm)Drich Wrote:(March 31, 2017 at 12:23 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Since we live under a secular government and not a theocracy, it really does not matter to me one bit your old book of myth says about divorce. Unless you are involved in the marriage, you have no say who does what. Islam also has it's views on marriage. So what.
way to move the goal posts!
first it's all "how evil Christianity is for it's views on marriage" and after I show your retarded behind it was not the bible or God.. now you don't care.
Nope sorry, it was because humans, even prior to the founding of America confused their own evolutionary empathy as being that source. What was really going on is more and more people over time got tired of religious brutality. Of course many attribute that new growing empathy to make that change. But so what? Even after the founding of America we still had religiously justified slavery, religiously justified sexism in women staying at home and not being allowed to vote, and religiously justified genocide of Native Americans.
I am not calling Christians evil FYI, if I thought you were evil I would not be talking to you. If I thought you were evil I would report you to authorities just like I would someone saying they were going to join Isis.
I am saying that religion IS NOT the root of our rights even if some what to claim it is. Do not confuse the protection of religion as being the source of our species morality. Other religions also have members as individuals whom also claim their club is the root of human rights and human morality.
I am saying your logic sucks, nothing more.
"The founders said" yea, again, so what. If it was that important to them to give special status to Christians where all others are mere pets or house guests, they failed. Would have been very easy for Adams or Madison or Jefferson or Paine to put the words "Christian, Jesus, Bible" in either or both the First Amendment and make it an oath to some sect of Christianity in the oath of office, they did not do that.
You have no more proof that our rights come from a Christian god than a Muslim does reading quotes from the Koran. You have no more proof that human rights come from the Torah or Talmud either. You have no proof that it comes from the writings of Buddha or out of the Vedas.
The only thing the First Amendment says is you have the right to, it makes no claims as to a deity doing anything. The oath of office backs this up, "no religious test".
