RE: Atheists, what do you believe is the best argument for the existence of a deity?
July 12, 2011 at 12:41 pm
(This post was last modified: July 12, 2011 at 12:43 pm by fr0d0.)
Huh? I didn't say you had faith. I said faith is the only way belief in God is possible, considering the Christian position. Therefore arguments for material existence don't address that subject.
Perhaps that's how I come to the conclusion that fine tuning is perhaps the weakest argument for God's existence.
IOW I could enter this discussion at the same level as non believers because there is no difference in my position to yours.
But maybe you're right... at this current moment in time I would find a scientific study of God to be absurd. There really is no need to go beyond what science already proposes.
Assuming dysteleology (no purpose or goal) is a metaphysical position and not subject to observation or scientific demonstration. When a divine hand cannot be observed through scientific methods, that is insufficient reason to conclude that a divine hand does not exist or is not active. A scientific viewpoint therefore shouldn't draw dysteleological conclusions. (paraphrase of John H Walton - The Lost World of Genesis One.)
Perhaps that's how I come to the conclusion that fine tuning is perhaps the weakest argument for God's existence.
IOW I could enter this discussion at the same level as non believers because there is no difference in my position to yours.
But maybe you're right... at this current moment in time I would find a scientific study of God to be absurd. There really is no need to go beyond what science already proposes.
Assuming dysteleology (no purpose or goal) is a metaphysical position and not subject to observation or scientific demonstration. When a divine hand cannot be observed through scientific methods, that is insufficient reason to conclude that a divine hand does not exist or is not active. A scientific viewpoint therefore shouldn't draw dysteleological conclusions. (paraphrase of John H Walton - The Lost World of Genesis One.)
