Do yourself have family or kids Kyu?
Would say that it's quite a reasonible that they had to die if a another countries military decided to bomb your city with a atomic bomb?
Would you reason that way if any of your own fmaily or friends where the victims?
Here in sweden do we have nearly no military and police is not allowed to use force. We function as a country decpite that. Also a goverment that rule with force will never last, just look at nazi germany or the Svoiet union. Force can never control people in the long run.
Would say that it's quite a reasonible that they had to die if a another countries military decided to bomb your city with a atomic bomb?
Quote: I don't believe in rights and I do not accept that an atomic bomb is any more or less ethical than a conventional weapon.So torture and civilan causualties is okay for you? and a slow painful death which is caused by the atmoic bomb(for those who doesnt die by the impact)?
Quote:I disagree ... if the enemy sites a missile battery in a populated area then, whilst care should be taken to harm as few civilians as possible, that battery MUST be taken out and if there is collateral damage then there is. Even though I don't really support the war & occupation in Iraq I was quite impressed with some of the smart targeted weapons and their ability to take out targets with minimal collateral damage.
Would you reason that way if any of your own fmaily or friends where the victims?
Quote:I think Gandhi's method was a very good one though he wasn't a pacifist by any stretch of the imagination and like I said earlier the only reason people can be pacifist is because someone else carries the responsibility to allow them the freedom to do so, someone else stands the watch so I'm afraid violence (or threat of force) is exactly what guarantees the peace. Even the police and law courts are a form of force (implicit or potential violence) and they control public behaviour and assure people of their "rights". Governments of course, couldn't govern without the courts, the police and the armed forces to back them up if required.
It's ALL about force (potential violence)!
Here in sweden do we have nearly no military and police is not allowed to use force. We function as a country decpite that. Also a goverment that rule with force will never last, just look at nazi germany or the Svoiet union. Force can never control people in the long run.
