RE: Trying to Apply the Ontological Argument in Real Life
April 12, 2017 at 4:45 pm
(This post was last modified: April 12, 2017 at 6:18 pm by Lek.)
(April 11, 2017 at 5:46 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Do you believe that every Christians that claims that the Christian god has revealed himself to them, is being accurate in their claim? I'm not saying they are lying, only that they may be mistaking about a natural (not god created) brain state.
If the person is a really a believer, then yes because in order for one to believe God must reveal himself to him. Someone could have had some kind of an experience which they felt was God, but it wasn't. Some people may interpret an experience as God because they want it to be so. In my case, God answered me very directly through another person.
Quote:What about people of other religions that claim their god has revealed himself to them, who are equally as convinced as you are? How do I go about differentiating their 'mistaken' (according to you) assessment of their god's revelation to them, from your 'accurate' assessment of your god's revelation to you?
I don't believe there is my God and their God. There is only one God who is the God of all. I don't think that anybody is fully aware of everything about him. Anyone seeking God is on a journey toward Jesus, who is the incarnation of God, and it is through him we are all saved. Someone who has never heard or read his name can still know Jesus without knowing his name when they acknowledge that there is a God and that they must rely on him for salvation. All our lives they and I are on a journey to know God more completely.
Quote:Not sure why you have a problem with this? How many other existential claims, besides your god claims, do you think your method would lead to accurate results?
How do I go about differentiating your method, from gullibility?
The reason I have a problem with the atheists method to determine if there is a God is because it doesn't work. God is supernatural, not natural, and the only way to come to know him is to ask him to reveal himself to you. This is what the bible teaches and this is what I discovered for myself. I know that some atheists say they have sincerely asked God to reveal himself to them and have received no answer. I can't get inside those people to determine whether or not they were sincere. All I know is what I've learned from the bible and my and others experiences. The bible does say the truth, but you won't believe it without the power of God. I can defend it with historical and scientific arguments, but I can't prove it, so if that's what someone needs to believe I can't do that for them. The only way to believe in God is for God to show you.
