(April 18, 2017 at 5:28 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:(April 18, 2017 at 5:24 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: I don't need to; there is no doubt about the seen and measured.
In other words: there's no smoke without a fire. Metaphorically, of course.
That's why I was never born inside a wall.
There's plenty of doubt.
What you have is CLAIMS. And you expect the rest of us to accept the claims on the word of people who accept those claims blindly but are unable to provide evidence to the rest of us when we request it.
You wouldn't accept such claims from people of other religions, or those who claim to have been abducted by aliens. Therefore, why should we accept your claims?
The details differ between one theist claim to the other, but the existence of a creator is always a constant in all claims.
Believing which story is true depends on variables like personal experiences.
Eventually; it depends on you, and which choice are you going to choose?
Brian37
Giving names is -in my view- the first mistake: sticking to the name "creator" is more accurate.
There are two types of God:
-Personal God
-The God of order, simplicity, elegance...etc.
The creator -in my view- is above all these human names they give for their Gods. A personal and God of order, is what I prefer to believe in.
Christianity did the mistake of turning God into a personal God only; represented in Jesus, the Father/Son concept.
The creator -in my view- is the God that got twisted in human sight to be "Yoda-Budha...etc".
Allah only means "God". It's the Arabic word for "God".


