(April 20, 2017 at 11:01 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(April 20, 2017 at 10:55 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: Really? Things could have been more "messy"? How did you arrive at this?
Things "fit" together.
There is a pattern: for positive, there is negative.
Just imagine if this concept never existed. It would be a "messy" environment.
Mere mental masturbation is not science, labs are where scientific method lead us to knowledge.
Reality is messy, QM and entropy prove that. The "order" we use to make more accurate observations confirmed over long periods of time we call the language of science.
"positive and negative" you are using in layperson's terms and is as useless as the Asian mythology of "yin and yang".
In a science lab through quantum mechanics the terms "positive" and negative" refer to either the charge or or position of a particle. Neutrons have no charge. Neutrinos have no mass. So neither can be considered either or. "Neut" part of both words means "neutral" neither having a positive or negative.
In scientific language it isn't left vs right or up vs down or something vs nothing or chaos vs order. In real science it is math that can give us the point of view at the time of observation depending on the context and subject of the experiment.
Black hole is a very ordered system, but also creates a mess to anything it sucks in. Hurricanes are also an ordered system that also creates a mess to anything it runs into/over. Some atoms are more stable than others, some combos of atoms are more stable and some less stable, and depending on what chemical reaction we are talking about, some are more suddenly volatile and other combos take longer to break down.
Scientific method gives us order to our observations, but reality is also what science describes in our messy reality. Your poop is messy and nasty to smell and look at, but also a natural product of an ordered system.
