(April 20, 2017 at 1:28 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Not this shit again. First the crap about NDEs now the "you got treated badly" crap.
What does an atheist's upbringing have to do with it? Bill Gates is an atheist and he had a good upbringing. James Randi is an atheist whom also did well and has never drank or smoked.
Theists are the majority in this country, so they are also going to be the majority who do well and also the majority who fill up prisons. Atheists are no different other than we are a minority. Some of us do well others don't do so well.
Overbearing parents or parents that abuse kids are not evidence that the victim is rejecting a god claim based on that. I was bullied as a kid, grew up with nothing but boy bullies on my street. I got beat up alot. But that is not the reason I reject any god claim. I didn't pick up Hinduism or Buddhism either as a result of that bad happening to me.
We don't reject god claims because bad happens, we reject all religions and god claims for one reason only, LACK OF EVIDENCE.
You cannot have it both ways.
You don't get to say, "If the atheist does well they are greedy"
You don't get to say, "If the atheist is abused it was because they didn't believe".
Lots of Christians are greedy, and lots of Christians stay Christians even after being abused, some of them even go on to abuse their kids themselves.
Bad things will happen to every human at some point, it can be health declining from old age, it can be from natural disaster, disease, crime, accidental death, and yes even being abused by parents or other kids, but those things happen worldwide. We are not atheists because bad things can happen to us. Your claims simply lack evidence.
You got me wrong. I agree with most of the points you made here, but I wasn't trying to make the point that you assumed I was. My impression was that she was acting ungrateful and bratty to the people who raised her. Not only did I raise my kids as christians, but I loved and cared for them in every way. If my daughter despised me because I taught her christianity, I'd be pretty hurt. So I was trying to determine if there was something else involved. If so, then I can understand. If not, then I think she's acting ungratefully to those who lovingly cared for her from birth to the present. If I became an atheist and my parents tried to talk me out of it, I wouldn't turn from then, but would try to convince them of why I became one.
