RE: Is there any evidence we dont live on in some way after death
July 17, 2011 at 5:20 am
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2011 at 5:30 am by Anymouse.)
(July 14, 2011 at 2:55 am)xonage Wrote: I have gone back and forth with what I believe about this. Although there is no evidence to believe we have a life after death, there is also no evidence to the contrary that I have encountered. It seems if we are part energy, and energy can never cease to exist, then part of us must be eternal. Anyone with some concrete evidence that we are completely finished at the time of death, please speak up.
p.s. to all the suspicious douche bags who live on this forum and think I am some theist in disguise, get a life. I am just a curious person.
I submit I am not a douche bag. However, after going through your posts I do in fact wonder about your tag which says you are an atheist.
I claim no such thing. On my opening pitch here I acknowledged my path is Wicca. No one has attacked me for that, I have only been called on making specious or illogical claims (and I haven't done much of that).
While there are some characters here with colourful language, the vast majority of the folk here are quite accepting of anyone's view, though they are under no obligation to be. This is Atheist Forums (.org), not Religious Debating Society (.org), or I Need To Be Saved By The Next Christian Coming Down The Street (.org). Generally, ad hominen attacks are not viewed any better by most here than any other logical fallacy.
However, it is not uncommon on these sort of fora that evangelists will claim to be agnostic or atheist, with the hope of putting over a message of evangelism. One thing the people here do not care for very much is someone who misrepresents themselves to make a point, whether claiming to be an atheist hoping to gain an audience for evangelising, or claiming to be a scientist when they have no training in a scientific field.
Such an evangelist would do better to admit it up front (but should be prepared for very pointed discussion of their beliefs, and trust me, atheists are very familiar with the Bible. They have to be: it is only self-defence.)
While I am not that great a judge of people, your posts seem to read like a person trying to slip a little Christian evangelising under the radar by claiming to be an atheist. Please correct me if I am wrong, and that your questions and proposals are nothing more than a person merely exercising a "what if?" sort of investigation. Evangelists have tried this on atheist fora before, and certainly will again; they all seem to think they are being original about it, as well. Trust me, this has been tried before. What makes it so exasperating (and why some atheists seem to lose their tempers over it) is because it never, ever, ends.
If I were suicidal, I might register on a Christian forum for the purpose of discussion and learning, the same reason I am here. I suspect what I would get is hatred and despite (and perhaps become the main event at a marshmallow roast in my honour, as thanks to the US Government, my address is available on the Internet). I doubt anyone would be interested in engaging me in discussion for my edification, or theirs.
My understanding of the term "atheist" (and I am not one, so feel free to correct me, y'all, if my understanding is wrong) is one who does not venerate any deity at all, believes in none other than as the mythology of particular societies, and does not expect to see any evidence to the contrary. (This would also include a theoretical person who has never been introduced to the concept of a deity at all.) Given evidence, which would need to be strong and perhaps overwhelming, an atheist might change his position on the existence of one or more deities, but with that evidence, such mythology would cease being mythology and become science.
Evidence, by its very nature, would annihilate any reason for faith. After all you would have proof. Faith by definition is "belief without proof." Thomas is rebuked in the New Testament for demanding proof from Jesus; why do Christians continue to try to "prove" their beliefs to others? And if Jesus saw fit to give Thomas the proof he sought, why not the rest of us?
James. If you harm none, do what you want shall be the whole of the Law.
"Be ye not lost amongst Precept of Order." - Book of Uterus, 1:5, "Principia Discordia, or How I Found Goddess and What I Did to Her When I Found Her."