(May 8, 2017 at 6:58 am)Khemikal Wrote:(May 7, 2017 at 8:12 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I wish people would fucking stop making it about "me" and look at the larger long term picture.Yes, right wing nutjobs play to an imaginary threat in order to send a readily exploitable demographic to the polls over this seemingly crucial single-issue voter market. Whose been working you up, though? It doesn't sound...to me, like you're reading from the rightwing script, and yet.....you're worked up over an imaginary threat yourself. So much so that you are, here, attempting to make an analogy between gun ownership and terrorism.
The majority of guns don't have to kill anyone because guns are OBJECTS. But if there is a flooded market and that creates more opportunity for just enough guns to be used by people in mass to cause problems.
Just like the stupid argument Muslims make "not all Muslims", which is a correct statement because MOST MUSLIMS are not terrorists, but in the east, their is a theocratic mindset that is just big enough to cause problems.
If anyone is playing into the bullshit of an "imaginary threat" it would be right wing blind worship of firearms. Nobody on the left I would consider sane wants to ban every single firearm. Just like no liberal Muslim should say that Trump's bullshit ban on Muslims is correct. That still would not negate the collective mindset of those who are the minority causing problems for their own majority.
In any case, whose minority demographic are we talking about? Hot pistols and gun trafficking have about as much to do with gun owners as they do with you, and even less to do with you or gun owners than islamic terrorism has to do with islam.
Quote:It is all in your head if you think banning big clips or spray riffles will be the end to all firearms. It is all in your head if you stupidly assume no liberals own firearms.................?
Again, you need food, you want caviar. You need a car, you want a Lamborghini.
Quote:You have a right to be a Muslim, you don't have the right to assault people who criticize Islam.Where is this gun free for all, with no regulations, occurring? Who, do you think...thinks there should -be- a free for all with no regulations? I'm just trying to figure out who or what the target of your criticism is.
You have a right to firearms, you dont have a right to a free for all with no regulations.
Quote:In western society you you either value voting or you dont. If you value voting that means long term, sometimes you dont get everything you want. If you cannot accept compromise then don't claim you value western pluralism........................?
I am not imagining shit. We have had a gun injury/death epidemic for decades. The last time the GOP gave a shit about that was when Reagan and Brady got shot. I am tired of fucking giving one shit about coddling the insecurities of idiots who flip out over a non existent threat in order to protect our flooded market.
The real threat is the marketing of the NRA. Just like big tobacco marketed cigarettes.
Yes it is a free for all because the GOP obstructs any laws that could reduce gun injuries and death. Our regulations are not universal, there is no universal background check, which a majority of Americans and even the majority of gun owners want.
I see stories every fucking day out here in the sticks where I live. Shootings are not an urban thing only.
The real threat is that another corporate lobby just like big oil, is bullying government to put profits over lives. Just like big pharma has created an opiod epidemic. Guns are simply another product with CEOs who care more about profits than public safety.