(July 18, 2011 at 12:33 am)Minimalist Wrote: Well, you come on over and explain to the Koch brothers and the rest of the libertarianazis around here that they are wrong.
Meanwhile, they will keep doing what they are doing and driving this country into the shitter. I wish you well. Our local republicans don't seem to have the backbone to tell them off.
Maybe they'll listen to a couple of foreigners.
But I doubt it.
Congratulations Min, you have truly became an analogue of Glenn Beck! Just like he attacks socialism by taking a socialist who was an asshole such as Stalin or Hitler and then rambling about how all socialists are like Stalin, you attack positions you disagree with by finding someone on the other side who most people find deplorable and then use it as an ad homnimen to attack the position it's self - Just like him you completely ignore the fact that some people are just ass holes regardless of their general position, except of course when they are of a similar position to yourself.
Oh, but wait a second, you actually fail harder than Beck, because at least there is no real question that Hitler or Stalin were of the socialist political philosophy despite their totalitarianism (Which is NOT an argument against Socialism), there is a serious question about whether or not the Koch brothers are still libertarians, for instance;
"The Koch brothers who strongly deny having anything to do with the Tea Party, even though they fund it heavily, are going to have a hard time keeping their Libertarian title. The billionaire brothers who own a conglomerate of companies have decided that their billions are more important than the environment. Clearly the Koch’s never read the Libertarian Party platform which includes supporting a clean and healthy environment and sensible use of our natural resources."
"The Koch brothers, who say they are Libertarian, have recently been tied to donations and parties for the Tea Party who of course is anti-anything as long as it gets attention. The Libertarian agenda specifically seeks to reduce pollution especially that created by corporations and with the amount of industry the Koch’s own they’re one of the biggest polluters in the country."
"When fighting government regulation helps them maximise profits – even by putting the rest of us at risk from cancer-causing chemicals – they are all about libertarianism. Yet when government rules or subsidies provide an opportunity to make some money, that free-market ideology is quietly shelved."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/...s-lobbying
http://www.mybloggityblog.com/wordpress/...communist/
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/...fact_mayer
Not only that, but their donations to the Republicans MASSIVELY outweigh their donations to the Libertarian party and they clearly favour the Tea Party over the Libertarians in the modern landscape... You would think that, given that these two are genuinely greedy asshole who go beyond self interest and actively seek to force their will on others and hide from the genuine damage they do to others or their property, if they really thought that libertarianism was their best bet they wouldn't be funnelling money into the corporatocracy, right? They want less regulation AND subsidies, Libertarianism will give them the former, Democrats will give them the later, the GOP will give them both - And which of the those parties are likely to take the harm done by their pollution seriously? The Libertarian party platform ranks it as a priority and the Democrats are trying to engineer a green-economy, so given they actively seek to limit their liabilities it is no fucking surprise where their money is really going - The same fucking bought-and-paid-for neo-conservatism/corporartism that all companies love, the stuff you find most pervasively in the Big Government majority of the Republicans and the "Moderates" in the Democrat party.
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