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morality is subjective and people don't have free will
RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will
(May 15, 2017 at 1:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: 1. It seems many of you hold the opinion that morality is subjective. Meaning there is no real, set in stone, right or wrong. Basically, if one person thinks a particular act is good, and another person thinks that same act is bad, nether one of these 2 people is actually correct. It's all just a matter of opinion, like one person thinking red is the best color and another thinking blue is. 

I believe morality is subjective. That doesn't mean it's arbitrary. It refers to what works for us, as a society of individuals, what makes us collaborate, build together so that all of us would live a good life. I'd say it's somewhat like science: You don't always know with 100% certainty the correct answer, but you do your best.

Quote:2. It also seems many of you hold the opinion that people don't actually have free will. Their acts are purely a result of circumstances and are not freely chosen. Basically the person could not have acted any differently because their action was only a result of their own inherent nature and whatever circumstances put them in the position to commit that act.

I personally don't believe in the "free will" preached by Christianity - i.e. the freedom to choose between "good" and "evil" at every step of your private ongoing life. I believe a human being is mostly the result of his DNA + social experience (i.e. what he learned from life, values, how he should behave, etc.). That doesn't absolve him of accountability - on the contrary, accountability contributes to his social experience.

Quote:So my question is this... for those who feel both these things are true - if there is no real right or wrong, and if people don't have the freedom to choose their behavior

If right and wrong are subjective, it doesn't mean they don't exist. Anybody (who is not mentally ill) has the possibility of adjusting his behaviour.

Quote:- then why do you get angry about people acting (or thinking) any certain way?

Because of the lack of accountability.

Quote:So how can you justify being angry at the person who rapes, kills, steals, lies, cheats, is conservative, is religious, likes Trump, IS Trump, etc etc?

I'm angry that not everybody respects the social norms & laws, and that they are affecting our lives.
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RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will - by Zenith - May 19, 2017 at 11:07 am

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