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morality is subjective and people don't have free will
RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will
(May 19, 2017 at 11:41 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(May 19, 2017 at 11:27 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: I believe moral standards evolved under the influence of social pressures. Our species seems to have a survival instinct, and over time we recognized certain actions as conducive to that survival.

This is subjective only in that different societies come to different conclusions. As we evolve into a global society so will our conclusions. For instance, in the west, we recognize intellectual property. China does not. China’s desire to get along with the west will give it an objective reason to respect our standards, while we in the west wanting to get along with China have an objective reason not to judge their society based on our standards as long as they don’t plagiarize what we consider to be ours.

Do you think eventually, if the world got sooo overpopulated that an individual's survival depended on there being less people so that there could be enough resources left for us personally, we'd eventually evolve to believe it's immoral to help save someone who's dying? Assuming they are a complete stranger and not friend or family I mean - just some random person.
Aw, social evolution in the eyes of a Kantian dilemma. History is replete with such acceptance on a national rather than a global scale. And this is usually the result of some megalomaniac deciding he had an objective standard by which everyone else needs to live. Just calling a standard objective has throughout history dehumanized, demonized and called for the extermination of those who object.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will - by Rhondazvous - May 19, 2017 at 12:45 pm

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