(July 19, 2011 at 12:01 am)FaithNoMore Wrote:(July 18, 2011 at 11:47 pm)Nick_A Wrote: Its meaning is clear
"Ridiculous because of the very fact that when one chooses to deny something it means that they have indeed seen it, analyzed it and made a choice to deny it."
it is asserted that people understand what they deny. This is just naive ignorance.
What is naive is to believe that anyone who rejects Christianity just doesn't seem to understand it. I'm sick and tired of Christians saying that if people truly understood Christianity, they wouldn't reject it. The fact is that this is just another delusion that Christians live under. People do understand and reject your religion. Get over it.
Nick_A Wrote:People deny life all the time because they don't understand it in order to value it so murder is a logical result.
I don't know why you are comparing denying life to denying your religion. The fact is, that you are completely convinced that anyone outside of your religion is spiritually retarded and must not understand the value of life. BULLSHIT! Christianity does not have a monopoly on self-awareness and I would even go as far to claim that it impedes it. When one confines understanding their life to one view, from one book, they are denying themselves the opportunity to understand life on their own and on their own terms. You seem to think that without your book the world would be spiritually lost, but the fact is that your book is not needed to be moral or value life. Your religion has blinded you to the truth about human morality which is that people do not need an ancient collection of fictional stories to do the right thing in life.
If you truly believe that murder is a logical result of denying Christianity, then you are either stupid or your religion is rotting your brain.
FNM
What is naive is to believe that anyone who rejects Christianity just doesn't seem to understand it. I'm sick and tired of Christians saying that if people truly understood Christianity, they wouldn't reject it. The fact is that this is just another delusion that Christians live under. People do understand and reject your religion. Get over it.
It even gets worse. I don't think you know what Christianity is so it is impossible to either accept or reject it. You are rejecting aspects of Christendom which isn't the issue and a great deal of it should be rejected.
Christianity does not have a monopoly on self-awareness
I agree.
When one confines understanding their life to one view, from one book, they are denying themselves the opportunity to understand life on their own and on their own terms.
True
You seem to think that without your book the world would be spiritually lost, but the fact is that your book is not needed to be moral or value life.
No, Humanity needs forms of sacred art that serve to awaken humanity to its unnatural psychological attachment to the shadows on the wall in Plato's Cave.
The Bible is able to read you so serves this purpose.
If you truly believe that murder is a logical result of denying Christianity, then you are either stupid or your religion is rotting your brain.
No. The logical result of denying what the essence of religion offers is what allows humanity to kill on one day and cure on the next without batting an eye.
The only reason subjective morality exists that justifies killing is because of humanity's loss of the experience of objective morality. This loss is normal for life in Plato's Cave. The purpose of the essence of religion is to awaken to the human condition
