Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them?

[SteelCurtain]

Steel, almost everyone I know who voted for Hillary, despised her long before Russia bots. When the email thing came out I laughed to myself because I thought, "is that all they have?!".
Personally I haven't liked her since she and Obama made it clear they were in big business' pockets during Obamas presidency. That added to the fact she stayed with what I believe to be a sexual predator of a husband.. and, yeah. Granted I was quite late to the negative news presses with her (she was wayyyy wrong on Iraq) but I wasn't Russian bot late!

I think you underestimate the disdain people already had for her before Russia meddled. Maybe it's because the Republicans hung her out on a stake for 12 Benghazi investigations just to give pepole a bad taste in their mouths at the sight of her.. I'm not sure. I just remember in the far beginnings of the Democratic primaries most everyone I knew said "anyone but her".

First off, big business and politics are married. Sorry. That ship has sailed. Until Citizens United is repealed and campaign finance reform is passed and dark money is rooted out, politicians who want to win will be playing the game with the current rules. You're not going to like any candidate that runs for office on either side of the aisle. You want to be a politician? You better have connections. Good luck to Bernie (who still has big business ties, but much less so) who I'll vote for a million times, but he's 1 person from a tiny state in a sea of politicians on both sides that are playing the game. This is exactly what I'm talking about. You're going to write off every major Dem who runs because they have connections to big business, even if they align politically with you. Liberals are doomed with this mentality. Change the game once you're in charge, but play the game your opponent is playing. Unless you're a billionaire. Then you can play your own game.

I'm not sure what to say about a woman's choice to stay with her husband. That's on her, and there are 1000 reasons why in the 80's and 90's a woman with a political future wouldn't leave an unfaithful, predatory, but politically powerful husband. Maybe she loves him, maybe she's using him--I don't care, it's none of my business. I won't blame a woman for the shitty things a man does.

The Iraq thing? Seriously? She was the Senator from New York. Have you seen what the public polls from New York were about going to war? Disregarding Fox News, at the time of the vote, most polls showed that around 70% of the nation, much less the state that was attacked, approved of the war. As an elected representative, of course she voted for the Iraq war. I was 18, if you asked me at the time, I would have told you I supported the Iraq war. I now know that to be wrong, and she was unequivocal. This Iraq war thing is so ridiculous---straight out of the Russian propaganda. The Russians started in early primary season, the end of 2014. They knew if they could stoke outrage on both sides of the primary fight, they could get people to carry it over after the primary was over. They knew if people hated Hillary who voted for Bernie, and if people hated Bernie who voted for Hillary, they could keep it going after one of them won. It worked like a charm.

No, I don't underestimate the hatred. I discount it as typical liberal ideological purity---foolishness. No one needs to love their presidential candidate. She was probably the most capable presidential candidate in decades, she had a near perfect political record, she was running on a progressive platform, and people didn't vote because she took money from Goldman Sachs and was shitty with cybersecurity, and once voted along with the population and had 8 straight years of Fox News/GOP mud caked on her. Liberals have a problem with ideological purity, and it is going to cost us until we wake the fuck up.