(May 31, 2017 at 9:18 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(May 31, 2017 at 4:15 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: This " ideal" you speak of is love. Did not Jesus state that the greatest commandments were to love God with all your heart, and to love thy neighbor as thyself? Did he also not state that ALL the law and prophets hang on those two commandments?
I thought it was obedience, but it seems to me that the god of the Bible equivocates the two. God wanted total obedience, but failed to create humans capable of it. Again...this is god's failure, not ours.
Submission is borne by either love or fear...
God wanted children capable of love and love can only be given through free will, forcing someone to love isn't love.
(May 31, 2017 at 9:18 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:Quote:What has God to do with your ability to love?
Well, that's an interesting question. If I am the product of a god's creation, then this god has literally everything to do with my abilities (or lack thereof) including my ability to love, and obey him.
Sounds like you prefer to be a robot.
If a doctor prescribed you medicine and told you that if you didn't take the medicine you'd die. Guess what you do? You'd take the medicine, which shows you're capable of obedience.
You're right about one thing, you don't have the ability to achieve perfect love, since that love is God's love ('Agape' in Greek), and can only come from God.
God wrote you a prescription to obtain perfect love which is to repent, and be baptized (in the name of Jesus Christ), and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, have you taken that prescription? If not, then you cannot blame God for your shortcomings.