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Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them?
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RE: Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them?
(June 1, 2017 at 9:11 am)Chad32 Wrote: Why would you blame voters who are often probably too busy with their own lives to do deep research into whether or not a candidate is lying to them with "public and private" positions.

It really doesn't take much to look behind the curtain. There are a multiplicity of resources available for fact-checking. People don't avail themselves of it because they're too busy? Okay ... that sounds like you're agreeing with me.

(June 1, 2017 at 9:11 am)Chad32 Wrote: People want to blame third party voters for Clinton's loss, and gloss over 9% of dem voters for going over to Trump. It isn't the voter's fault that the DNC passed up who is now the most popular politician in the country for who is now either 1st or 2nd most unpopular. If the dems want to win, they need to push a winning candidate. If they want to ignore their constituents for big money donors, then don't blame the constituents for not voting for their candidate.

I agree that the candidate matters when it comes to earning -- or losing -- votes. Of course they matter. But at the end, it is the votes that matter most, and that inculpates the voters.

(June 1, 2017 at 10:28 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:I was speaking in terms of the general elections, and not the primaries, as I'm sure you understood, and ignored.


But why?  The primaries are where any choice is most apparent.  Even the Dems started off with 6 entrants in the field.  We spend a year and a half narrowing the field down to the two you are so unhappy with but you can't ignore the process.

Nor am I, I was speaking to the specific context of my comment upthread.

Now, the primaries as well suffer the vicissitudes of voter whimsy too, no argument there. Of course, we saw in this last campaign that while back-room deals may be a thing of the past, the hangover from that era still has clear implications in these primaries. In this sense, the voters in the Democrat primaries don't carry the same blame that I assign to the voters in the GE.

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RE: Why is the Democratic Party against the only person who could save them? - by Thumpalumpacus - June 1, 2017 at 1:11 pm

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