RE: Sin and the Blame Game
June 2, 2017 at 3:50 am
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2017 at 4:22 am by Fake Messiah.)
(June 1, 2017 at 6:03 pm)Lek Wrote: Also don't forget to check Koran because if it turns out they're right you'll go to their hell as well as other religioions booksAlso don't forget to check Koran because if it turns out they're right you'll go to their hell as well as other religions books.
(As far as the consequences of not accepting God's offer, I believe the bible teaches hell, but I don't believe it teaches that any person will be there for eternity. I'm currently trying to determine whether it teaches some will spend time there and after that will cease to exist or if they would still have the opportunity to accept salvation while in hell. But this is a matter for a different discussion.)
(June 1, 2017 at 9:24 am)Drich Wrote: Amen!
So what the problem is?
Is it because you feel like you are not apart of the fold? because you currently doubt God you can not be one of the predestined?
Did Thomas/doubting Thomas always believe? was He not one of the chosen? Did Paul/Saul of Tarsus always believe? was He not apart of the chosen?
who are you to say whether or not you have been chosen? Being chosen has nothing to do with what you believe or even want.
If the Bible is correct and Jesus really is the only way to heaven, then the whole system seems profoundly unfair. A baby born into a family of Christian evangelicals in a small South Carolina town, for example, would enjoy an extraordinary advantage over a baby born into a Muslim or Hindu family in Yemen or Mumbai. If one's choice of a god and religious affiliation truly does carry with it implications that determine an eternal fate after death, then why don't all people have equal access? Sure, many people around the world are aware of Christianity, more today than ever, but how difficult must it be for the majority of people in those societies where Christians are few or nonexistent? How tough must it be to go against the currents of family and culture to embrace a foreign religion? For most, it's probably not even a matter of emotional strength and determination. More likely they never even consider becoming Christians because of their upbringing by family and society, which imposed a different god belief on them. They have no compulsion to become Christians because they feel they are already doing the right thing.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
