Consciousness Trilemma

[bennyboy]

What seems true to you is very often wrong.  Eliminitive materialists judge the assertion of your experiences accuracy by relation to whether or not there is anything in your brain that is, or could...do what you say "you" are doing.  

I'd say it's likely that what seems true to me is ALWAYS wrong, unless there is a context established by which truth can be measured.

-and there's the trouble.  We're constantly looping back round to your own ideas while pretending that we are addressing or even disagreeing with -their- ideas.  We aren't.   Maybe your own ideas are just flat out wrong? No amount of referring to them will tell us anything about eliminitive materialism's position.  Just as no amount of referring to your misaprehensions of solidity will tell us about the structure of material objects.  To an eliminitive materialist, no amount of referring to what is not there or cannot be will explain our consciousness.

Except you're not talking about what's not there, but what's not there as such, and I'm saying that nothing is there as such. They say there's consciousness, but it's not there as such, and your strong perception and beliefs about it are illusory. I'm saying that a table is not there as such, either. Yeah, there's a table, because you can experience touching and seeing it-- but it's not what you think it is.

What I fail to do is to see why mind should be treated specially in this way when treated as an object of inquiry, but why nothing else should.