(June 6, 2017 at 12:43 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(June 6, 2017 at 9:27 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: By the idea of god, maybe. By the fear of god. Or by the wanting of a reward of heaven. But not an actual god.
And you jump in on that regarding the good inspired by religion, but not the violence inspired religion, because...?
Oh yeah, if there is no god, then religions are man-made, but you guys want to somehow believe that deep down people are good, but they created religions, which are evil.
Well, we ARE human. Unlike your god, who created evil on purpose.
Quote:and if the motivation for doing them is a 'big payoff' later of some sort, rather than from an altruistic bent . . .
Then religion created good where it otherwise wouldn't have been.
The ends justify the means, huh?
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam