"Cultural Appropriation"

[Amarok]

By your logic pissing someone grave. Defiling a war memorial . And using lamented holocaust registries as coasters .

None of those are examples of cultural appropriation. Those are examples of disrespect.

Don't conflate the two.

Is English your native tongue? If it isn't, how are you not appropriating, yourself?

 That's just my point a dream catcher in my culture is not just art it's a sacred ceremonial object . And using it as a wall decoration is as awful and disrespectful to it's role in my culture as the above .

I have no problem with some one speaking my language. (my non native relatives do) That's not the same as a dream catcher or a grave marker or defiling a wedding oath . Just as buying a leather jacket or a pair  moccasins is not the same .

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I have never said one culture is more special then another in fact the total opposite .Which is why I have called myself horrible for not following this same rule . When acquiring foreign stuff. And why I don't do it anymore .

What, exactly, is so horrible about seeing something another group of people do, and saying, "gosh, I like that"? So long as you're not pretending to be one of them by using that cultural meme, how are you hurting someone?

I'd suggest that by refusing to find means of expressing yourself using whatever means and modes at hand, you're impoverishing your own life.

Let me give a real life example . I was dating a Chinese girl . And i brought here to my apartment (i was staying in Shanghai) and I was going to show her a neat object id bought in a market . So i brought her to apartment . and showed her the object a pair of pretty tiny shoes i had bought . upon looking at them she burst into tears . I asked her why . She promptly told me id bought a pair of lotus shoes . I asked her what was wrong with that. She then informed me of there significance as part of a disturbing custom called foot binding . I asked why this bothered her personally . She told me her grandmother(who she was very close with) had undergone foot binding it had messed up her legs and spine resulting in a slow painful death. So i got rid of them . These were not decorations and I refused to treat them as such . I instead bought a wall scroll of a tree one intended as a decoration .

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Because it's just as disrespectful to the object treating it like " just a piece of art on a wall" doing any of those things to any of those objects does not "harm " anyone by your logic .But it's just as awful and the people offended by it are not just "triggered "or " whining"   they have valid reason to be . This is something you keep missing .

I never said "just a piece of art on the wall". I said "a piece of art on the wall". Now you're insulting my artistic lifestyle, because I put a lot of value in art. I'd take offense, but I already said I didn't take you seriously at this point. Why should I care what you think?

Sigh weather you said just doesn't matter . I never said art wasn't valuable .I said dream catcher( grave makers wedding oaths ) were not meant to be art pieces. There ceremonial objects . And treating them as such (this includes natives who sell said items as such) is a trivialization of them. And that's disrespectful .  Wasn't it you wanted this dialogue ?

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None of those are examples of cultural appropriation. Those are examples of disrespect.

Don't conflate the two.

Is English your native tongue? If it isn't, how are you not appropriating, yourself?

 That's just my point a dream catcher in my culture is not just art it's a sacred ceremonial object . And using it as a wall decoration is as awful and disrespectful to it's role in my culture as the above .

I have no problem with some one speaking my language. (my non native relatives do) That's not the same as a dream catcher or a grave marker or defiling a wedding oath . Just as buying a leather jacket or a pair  moccasins is not the same .

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What, exactly, is so horrible about seeing something another group of people do, and saying, "gosh, I like that"? So long as you're not pretending to be one of them by using that cultural meme, how are you hurting someone?

I'd suggest that by refusing to find means of expressing yourself using whatever means and modes at hand, you're impoverishing your own life.

Let me give a real life example . I was dating a Chinese girl . And i brought here to my apartment (i was staying in Shanghai) and I was going to show her a neat object id bought in a market . So i brought her to apartment . and showed her the object a pair of pretty tiny shoes i had bought . upon looking at them she burst into tears . I asked her why . She promptly told me id bought a pair of lotus shoes . I asked her what was wrong with that. She then informed me of there significance as part of a disturbing custom called foot binding . I asked why this bothered her personally . She told me her grandmother(who she was very close with) had undergone foot binding it had messed up her legs and spine resulting in a slow painful death. So i got rid of them . These were not decorations and I refused to treat them as such . I instead bought a wall scroll of a tree one intended as a decoration .

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I never said "just a piece of art on the wall". I said "a piece of art on the wall". Now you're insulting my artistic lifestyle, because I put a lot of value in art. I'd take offense, but I already said I didn't take you seriously at this point. Why should I care what you think?

Sigh weather you said just doesn't matter . I never said art wasn't valuable .I said dream catcher( grave makers wedding oaths ) were not meant to be art pieces. There ceremonial objects . And treating them as such (this includes natives who sell said items as such) is a trivialization of them. And that's disrespectful .  Wasn't it you wanted this dialogue ?

 Oh and FYI referring back to something you already wrote and feeling inclined to repeat it is not dodging