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"Cultural Appropriation"
RE: "Cultural Appropriation"
Quote:Besides that point, you're even triggered by someone hanging a dream catcher on their wall. When you cry wolf this often, nobody is going to come when the real wolf shows up.

I already addressed the dream catcher and why i feel it should not be used as a mere decoration . What real wolf . Where is the line crossed . Where something isn't just a "trigger " according to you.

(June 8, 2017 at 3:28 am)Jesster Wrote: And where did this tattoo touch you?

Seriously Dodgy
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RE: "Cultural Appropriation"
It's just a trigger when the only result is whining and no actual harm. Get over it. It's a piece of art on a wall. I really can't take you seriously when you keep arguing this point.
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: "Cultural Appropriation"
I think the essence of appropriation lies in intent. It's one thing to pay homage to a culture that's influenced your own, but for me the line is drawn at pretense. If you're pretending you understand a culture because you've adopted elements of it, you're full of shit.

I play blues on my guitar, but I clearly have no idea what it meant to be a black sharecropper or cotton-picker, and I don't pretend otherwise. Am I appropriating culture? I don't think so. I think I'm just picking what I like, a la carte, and investing my own meaning into it.

I'm a big fan of Yo Yo Ma, too. And I'm not sore about the many world-music genres adopting that most hideous of my western culture's inventions, the drum machine.

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RE: "Cultural Appropriation"
(June 8, 2017 at 3:29 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
(June 8, 2017 at 3:28 am)Jesster Wrote: And where did this tattoo touch you?

Seriously Dodgy

I'll be serious when you earn a serious response.
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: "Cultural Appropriation"
(June 8, 2017 at 3:32 am)Jesster Wrote: It's just a trigger when the only result is whining and no actual harm. Get over it. It's a piece of art on a wall. I really can't take you seriously when you keep arguing this point.

But it does harm . By your logic pissing someone grave. Defiling a war memorial . And using lamented holocaust registries as coasters . Should be okay . Because no one is "Harmed" 

It's not just a piece of art on the wall that's my point .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: "Cultural Appropriation"
(June 8, 2017 at 3:36 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
(June 8, 2017 at 3:32 am)Jesster Wrote: It's just a trigger when the only result is whining and no actual harm. Get over it. It's a piece of art on a wall. I really can't take you seriously when you keep arguing this point.

But it does harm . By your logic pissing someone grave. Defiling a war memorial . And using lamented holocaust registries as coasters . Should be okay . Because no one is "Harmed" 

It's not just a piece of art on the wall that's my point .

I'd ask you how hanging a piece of art on a wall resembled any of those things in any way, but you'll just tell me "I already explained it in another post" again. I don't have time for your exaggerations and question dodging.
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: "Cultural Appropriation"
(June 8, 2017 at 3:36 am)Tizheruk Wrote: By your logic pissing someone grave. Defiling a war memorial . And using lamented holocaust registries as coasters .

None of those are examples of cultural appropriation. Those are examples of disrespect.

Don't conflate the two.

Is English your native tongue? If it isn't, how are you not appropriating, yourself?

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RE: "Cultural Appropriation"
(June 8, 2017 at 3:38 am)Jesster Wrote:
(June 8, 2017 at 3:36 am)Tizheruk Wrote: But it does harm . By your logic pissing someone grave. Defiling a war memorial . And using lamented holocaust registries as coasters . Should be okay . Because no one is "Harmed" 

It's not just a piece of art on the wall that's my point .

I'd ask you how hanging a piece of art on a wall resembled any of those things in any way, but you'll just tell me "I already explained it in another post" again. I don't have time for that.

Because it's just as disrespectful to the object treating it like " just a piece of art on a wall" doing any of those things to any of those objects does not "harm " anyone by your logic .But it's just as awful and the people offended by it are not just "triggered "or " whining"   they have valid reason to be . This is something you keep missing .
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

Inuit Proverb

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RE: "Cultural Appropriation"
(June 8, 2017 at 3:45 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
(June 8, 2017 at 3:38 am)Jesster Wrote: I'd ask you how hanging a piece of art on a wall resembled any of those things in any way, but you'll just tell me "I already explained it in another post" again. I don't have time for that.

Because it's just as disrespectful to the object treating it like " just a piece of art on a wall" doing any of those things to any of those objects does not "harm " anyone by your logic .But it's just as awful and the people offended by it are not just "triggered "or " whining"   they have valid reason to be . This is something you keep missing .

I never said "just a piece of art on the wall". I said "a piece of art on the wall". Now you're insulting my artistic lifestyle, because I put a lot of value in art. I'd take offense, but I already said I didn't take you seriously at this point. Why should I care what you think?
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: "Cultural Appropriation"
(June 8, 2017 at 2:43 am)Tizheruk Wrote: I have never said one culture is more special then another in fact the total opposite .Which is why I have called myself horrible for not following this same rule . When acquiring foreign stuff. And why I don't do it anymore .

What, exactly, is so horrible about seeing something another group of people do, and saying, "gosh, I like that"? So long as you're not pretending to be one of them by using that cultural meme, how are you hurting someone?

I'd suggest that by refusing to find means of expressing yourself using whatever means and modes at hand, you're impoverishing your own life.

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