RE: A question about original sin.
July 21, 2011 at 1:03 pm
(This post was last modified: July 21, 2011 at 1:04 pm by Judas BentHer.)
(July 21, 2011 at 6:30 am)Godschild Wrote: Romans 5:18-19 (KJV)
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
I do believe you have proven what I said, thank you. You think this verse says that you will pay for the sin of Adam, your wrong you pay for your sin only. You sure have an upside-down way of looking at scripture. You are trying to blame God for your sin, man up and accept that what you do is of your own making through the freewill of your life.
I didn't make your point for you. However, I understand how you need to read what you need to believe in order to think you deserve to be labeled a sinner, and hope to god you'll deserve heaven when you die.
And do pay attention. This is an atheist forum. I don't blame god for my sin. God does not exist, nor does sin.
However you, like all Christians, must think everyone in the world is liable as fellow sinners. That we've all come short of the glory of the god that you believe created all of us to be in such deficit.
It's a fascinating example of irrationality and hypocrisy. Christians, as you repeatedly example in your arguments proffered on an atheist forum you elect to join and presume to insist in your address to us are just as responsible as Christians in being sinners. Everyone is guilty of moral wrong doing. Everyone makes offense against god. And if we don't repent of that, we're all damned.
And yet that fault, that deficit state of being precedes everything that follows about being human. They're sinners from the beginning, simply for being human. So that all their lives they have to atone for the innate characteristic of having being created by god's will, imperfect in his sight. And as a consequence they shall forever strive to overcome god's will, by seeking to be redeemed of it so as to be saved from god's wrath and judgment for failing to overcome the human condition he created possible.
And being omniscient, that poor born sinner's destiny is already set. Because there is nothing omniscience does not know.
Isaiah 46:9
I am God, and there is none like me,
declaring the end from the beginning
and from ancient times things not yet done.
And as the myth of the "Book of Life" declares, so as to support that Biblical promise.
"And whosoever was not found written in the book of life
was cast into the lake of fire" (Revelation 20:15)
If your name is not contained within you go to Hell. And while that may surprise you, and you'll no doubt claim it untrue regardless of the Biblical scripture to the contrary, be not afraid. For while you may like to think you'll have a great many atheists for company, the Bible says you shall certainly at the very least be none the less in the company of your god. Psalms 135:7-10.
Meanwhile, you should check your heart and your motives for being here as you demonstrate the Christian example, as you show us by your posts what your faith has done for you. And what it's contributed in making you who you post/show yourself to be.
Which at this point is that of someone who thinks they have a valid argument as to not only why god exists and is perfect despite the scripture to the contrary, as well as why you're a Christian, but that even atheists are subject to the terms and conditions of being human, per the tenets of your religion.
You know that old saying; you're preaching to the choir? In this case, you're arguing to the mirror.
You should spend some quality time asking yourself why you think you'll win.
"In life you can never be too kind or too fair; everyone you meet is carrying a heavy load. When you go through your day expressing kindness and courtesy to all you meet, you leave behind a feeling of warmth and good cheer, and you help alleviate the burdens everyone is struggling with."
Brian Tracy
Brian Tracy