RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
June 19, 2017 at 9:17 pm
(This post was last modified: June 19, 2017 at 9:35 pm by henryp.)
(June 19, 2017 at 8:09 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(June 19, 2017 at 7:50 pm)wallym Wrote: Are the parallels meaningful though?No. Trump wants to be Hitler, but Hitler would have fucking hated that weak piece of shit.
Nevertheless, the parallel is valid enough-- if trump could have brown-shirts and SS supporting him, he'd very obviously do it in a second.
Very obviously. I take everything I've said back.
(June 19, 2017 at 9:15 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:Do you think castigating is what made Hitler special. Or do you think it was the murdering that followed the castigating. Because castigating is like THE political move of the 21st century. Seems like it's at the heart of every campaign. Find a group of people and call them evil. NRA, religous right, hollywood elite, wallstreet, 1%, blacks, Hispanics, whites, males, atheists, educated, uneducated, people who watch fox news, people who went to ivy league schools.... and on and on and on and on and on.(June 19, 2017 at 8:49 pm)wallym Wrote: My argument would be that these are incredibly generic political strategies that have been used since governments were formed, and the fact that Hitler did some of them as well doesn't make them nefarious to the degree people are implying when they are drawing 'meaningful parallels'.
No, they're not generic. Some politicians use them, others don't. Which tools a politician prefers to use can tell you much about him or her.
Another, which I forgot to mention but which Trump avails himself regularly, is the "Big Lie", mastered by Goebbels.
Also, the Rant. They both use that to good effect.
But really, the reason for the drawing of parallels lies in the willingness to castigate an entire group of people in order to attain political success ... never mind the people who are hurt in the process.
Ranting I'll give you, is rare in presidential politics because it gets the 'not presidential' tag. But I assume it'll be back in fashion 2020. Bernie used it to pretty great effect. Tapping into the anger is definitely a smart political move. Big lies...who's not doing it? You don't have to partake in these things, as long as you are okay with topping out at city councilman in some backwater town.
It's not a coincidence that, as far as I can tell, every politician is a shithead.
