RE: Why can't Trump supporters admit there is something wrong with him
June 20, 2017 at 12:10 am
(This post was last modified: June 20, 2017 at 12:32 am by henryp.)
(June 19, 2017 at 11:38 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No, it's not the association fallacy. You were just wrong about the comparisons people were making. That's it, that's all.
Oh man, you have no idea what I've been talking about this whole time. That's pretty funny.
You're argument is:
Hitler is evil on a super serious level.
Hitler took a set of X actions.
Trump took a subset of X actions (we'll call these Y)
Therefore Trump is evil.
To which I said, NAY NAY! You can only conclude Trump is evil, if Y contains some action (or subset of actions) Z that for all people taking action Z makes you evil.
So what I did, was created a subset of X we can call Q, for all X where it's true that if you took action Q it would make you evil. So Q is genocide/starting a war, etc... If you're implying you can logically conclude Trump is Evil with your argument, you're essentially (even if you don't realize it) stating that Q and Y share some common action.
So I was going through Q, and pointing out that they aren't present in Y. Meaning you can't conclude Trump is evil.
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A simpler example that hones in on the crux of what happened.
You said Larry must be good at basketball because he's tall.
And I said so you're saying Jimbo who's very tall, but only has one leg is good at basketball.
And then you said "I Never said Jimbo was good at basketball!" You're a weirdo.
But your claim that Larry must be good at basketball because he's tall would logically assert that ole One legged Jimbo, who wasn't even good at basketball before he lost his leg to the coyotes, must also be good at basketball. You're inadvertently claiming it without ever saying it.
But it's not true, because of the good ole association fallacy.