(June 20, 2017 at 12:10 am)wallym Wrote:(June 19, 2017 at 11:38 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No, it's not the association fallacy. You were just wrong about the comparisons people were making. That's it, that's all.
Oh man, you have no idea what I've been talking about this whole time. That's pretty funny.
You're argument is:
Hitler is evil on a super serious level.
Hitler took a set of X actions.
Trump took a subset of X actions (we'll call these Y)
Therefore Trump is evil.
The only one here saying these kinds of vague generalities (my bolded) is you. I'm not saying Trump is evil. I don't go around looking to find evil in the world. That is such a useless abstraction and holdover from religion.
But undermining the press, seeking to substitute propaganda instead, that is concrete and specific.
I'll bet even Nixon, in the throes of Watergate, if asked about the function of a free press would have intelligible things to say in favor. Not Trump. He doesn't think about things like that, probably wouldn't understand it. He is just looking to get his way at any cost - a perfectly good parallel to draw with Hitler.
Of course Hitler isn't the only historical figure to share Trump's low regard for a free press. Indeed the press was not free under Stalin. But Stalin's approach didn't depend on warping public opinion the way Hitler did and Trump would like to do. Stalin was more brutal. He didn't need to win hearts and minds. Thus Hitler makes for the closer parallel.
Probably not possible to break through your cognitive dissonance anyway but please do try to note that I have not said Trump = Hitler, nor have I said Trump = Evil and Hitler = Evil. No one here but you has made such a global statement.
