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In Defense of God.
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RE: In Defense of God.
(June 22, 2017 at 6:58 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: People believe whatever they want.
Deciding what is right and wrong depends on the person.
Ish and ofc, respectively.

Quote:God made the gruesome deaths and sad events a reality. Allowing for them to happen will make us question the limits of power and control he has.
While you may choose to believe this, it's definitely not something that every believer believes in, nor is it a logical necessity of god, nor does this have to be true for there to be a god. 

Quote:Believers who think he isn't responsible, just directed a slap to the concept of creation. 
A God who isn't responsible is a weak God. 
I'm not sure why you would choose to believe that..but for many, a god that is not responsible for grizzly murders is, at least on that count, a just god.  In any case, a "weak" god...is still a god.

Quote:But creating it and putting a huge mark of warning over it, is so different from making it happen.
Okay?

Quote:Colt made guns. But it's serial killers who shot the child; not Colt.  
Sure, but in the case of many peoples beliefs, god isn't colt, in the analogy, so it's just not relevant to their god concept.  God didn't make the guns, or shoot the people.  There's certainly no requirement that god made the guns or shoot people in order to be a god..and just as before, none of what you've said has to be true for there to be a god.  If a god exists, the just god of many peoples beliefs, who is not responsible for murders, who neither makes the guns nor shoots people...or even a "weak" god might exist.  

Quote:Logically; it's wrong to think he is the cause. But at the same time; he created it; put it in his test; warned people from it.
You'll have to unwind your own tangle on that one though, wouldn't you agree?  Since it's your unique belief in some personal god that you're discussing?  It's just not a problem for anyone who doesn't believe in the kind of god you believe in, and it's certainly not a problem for god, if a god exists.
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Messages In This Thread
In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2017 at 12:25 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Chad32 - June 22, 2017 at 1:29 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by vorlon13 - June 22, 2017 at 2:14 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Minimalist - June 22, 2017 at 3:14 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Losty - June 22, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Pat Mustard - June 27, 2017 at 2:28 am
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2017 at 1:47 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by vorlon13 - June 22, 2017 at 2:38 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Mister Agenda - June 22, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2017 at 2:30 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2017 at 2:41 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by vorlon13 - June 22, 2017 at 2:42 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2017 at 2:43 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by WinterHold - June 22, 2017 at 4:43 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Valkyrie - June 22, 2017 at 5:49 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by chimp3 - June 22, 2017 at 5:52 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2017 at 4:48 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by WinterHold - June 22, 2017 at 6:58 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by ignoramus - June 22, 2017 at 6:27 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2017 at 7:07 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by WinterHold - June 23, 2017 at 3:09 am
RE: In Defense of God. - by brewer - June 22, 2017 at 7:11 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2017 at 7:37 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Minimalist - June 22, 2017 at 7:51 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2017 at 7:57 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Jesster - June 22, 2017 at 7:57 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2017 at 8:08 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 23, 2017 at 3:26 am
RE: In Defense of God. - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 25, 2017 at 4:14 am
RE: In Defense of God. - by Astonished - June 25, 2017 at 7:05 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 25, 2017 at 7:16 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Astonished - June 25, 2017 at 7:37 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 25, 2017 at 7:53 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Astonished - June 25, 2017 at 7:59 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 25, 2017 at 8:13 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Astonished - June 25, 2017 at 8:18 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 25, 2017 at 8:33 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Astonished - June 25, 2017 at 8:35 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 25, 2017 at 8:37 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Astonished - June 25, 2017 at 8:44 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 25, 2017 at 8:48 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Astonished - June 25, 2017 at 8:51 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 25, 2017 at 8:53 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Astonished - June 25, 2017 at 8:55 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 25, 2017 at 9:05 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 9:25 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 26, 2017 at 9:39 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 9:41 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 26, 2017 at 10:04 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 10:11 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 26, 2017 at 10:18 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 10:35 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 26, 2017 at 10:43 pm
RE: In Defense of God. - by Astonished - June 27, 2017 at 12:29 am
RE: In Defense of God. - by The Grand Nudger - June 27, 2017 at 1:36 am

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