(June 25, 2017 at 7:59 pm)Astonished Wrote: I'm saying, any theistic notion of god or gods is indefensible, which is why it fails at every turn, and your way of trying to get around that was to fall back on the deistic god.I don't think you understand, I'm not falling back on any god, I'm not proposing any god. I'm simply providing commentary on what an argument -against- god can or does say.
What sorts of gods it would apply to, and what sorts of gods it wouldn't, etc. Whether it's more an argument against the believers god....or more that believers are often not nice people™.
Quote:What that does is give theists, who will act on beliefs, a sense that their numbers are greater and that reason could not call a deist all the way to the rationalist/atheist side, strengthening their beliefs and falling deeper into that madness.I seriously doubt that a mad theist finds much support in deists or deism.
Quote:Giving any legitimacy to these notions is not just pointless but unethical. So you can't really even defend deism. Claiming to be agnostic instead of an atheist isn't quite as bad but still doesn't exactly help......?
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