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Non-existing objects
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RE: Non-existing objects
(June 26, 2017 at 12:11 pm)KerimF Wrote:
(June 26, 2017 at 10:04 am)Whateverist Wrote: I can't agree that we have no choice but to follow the role embedded in our nature (my bolded).  At best I think you'll find our nature consists of a constellation of predispositions and an assortment of interests not all of which are even known consciously by us.  These vie with one another chaotically.  Even if one subscribed to a theory of determinism I would think the calculus required to predict how all these become resolved in ones life is beyond anyone's understanding.  Therefore it would be naive to suppose that each action a person takes was ever inevitable from any possible point of view - including a divine one.

May I say that one of the embedded subroutines that are related to our intellectual immunity system let us feel the need to disagree, as a first reaction, anytime we hear something not clear enough.

On the other hand, if these instructions are chaotic, we won't have the chance to witness the 'power' of propaganda over billions on people in the world, on theses days. The powerful/rich families (power and money are twins who can both survive for one person if they are of the same level only) around the world have all the necessary means to reach almost every house on the planet (if not beyond it Wink ). Their universal/global propaganda would have no serious effects on their audience if they are not served by professional researchers of these embedded instructions; in order to predict in advance the various reactions of their victims (propaganda's victims). It would be off topic if I try elaborating more this point from this angle.


Thanks, that (my bolded) does help.  Now I think I see why you have trouble seeing, or at least acknowledging, areas of agreement.  

But why do you think our deep determinants must be orderly to be exploited?  Also, I would say the more we assume and expect orderliness the more easily exploited we become.  Those seeking to shape public opinion prey on assumptions like that.  It is why Trump and his ilk always claim every problem has an easy solution.  At least until they actually win power and then .. who knew it could be so complicated?
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Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 7:07 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by chimp3 - June 25, 2017 at 7:14 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 7:50 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by chimp3 - June 25, 2017 at 7:55 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by ignoramus - June 25, 2017 at 7:24 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 8:18 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 8:32 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 9:46 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 10:01 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 12:56 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Alex K - June 25, 2017 at 8:14 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 8:36 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 8:41 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 10:26 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 10:57 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 3:54 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by chimp3 - June 25, 2017 at 8:41 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 11:13 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by chimp3 - June 25, 2017 at 11:34 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 4:39 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by brewer - June 25, 2017 at 11:40 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 8:14 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 8:43 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 8:52 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Cyberman - June 25, 2017 at 8:26 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by brewer - June 25, 2017 at 8:36 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Alex K - June 25, 2017 at 8:37 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Cyberman - June 25, 2017 at 10:03 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 10:10 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by bennyboy - June 25, 2017 at 10:29 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 2:05 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 2:17 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 26, 2017 at 3:52 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by brewer - June 26, 2017 at 7:55 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 26, 2017 at 11:35 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by brewer - June 25, 2017 at 2:37 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by bennyboy - June 25, 2017 at 7:16 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 7:51 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Minimalist - June 25, 2017 at 11:31 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 11:47 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Cyberman - June 25, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 25, 2017 at 4:17 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 4:33 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 26, 2017 at 6:03 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Whateverist - June 25, 2017 at 11:36 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 26, 2017 at 1:04 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Cyberman - June 26, 2017 at 11:14 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Whateverist - June 25, 2017 at 11:46 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by chimp3 - June 25, 2017 at 12:35 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 1:29 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by brewer - June 25, 2017 at 2:03 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by chimp3 - June 25, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by brewer - June 25, 2017 at 2:42 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by chimp3 - June 25, 2017 at 2:57 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by brewer - June 25, 2017 at 3:13 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Brian37 - June 25, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 26, 2017 at 2:31 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by Whateverist - June 26, 2017 at 10:04 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 26, 2017 at 12:11 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Whateverist - June 26, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 26, 2017 at 12:53 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 25, 2017 at 12:51 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Astonished - June 25, 2017 at 8:33 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by bennyboy - June 25, 2017 at 9:03 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 26, 2017 at 7:09 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by SteelCurtain - June 26, 2017 at 7:27 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 26, 2017 at 10:31 am
RE: Non-existing objects - by brewer - June 26, 2017 at 2:04 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Cyberman - June 26, 2017 at 12:03 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Cyberman - June 26, 2017 at 3:18 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by bennyboy - June 26, 2017 at 3:43 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 12:10 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 26, 2017 at 2:03 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Astonished - June 26, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Whateverist - June 26, 2017 at 12:57 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by bennyboy - June 26, 2017 at 2:52 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by brewer - June 26, 2017 at 3:12 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by Cyberman - June 26, 2017 at 3:53 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by ignoramus - June 26, 2017 at 8:47 pm
RE: Non-existing objects - by KerimF - June 28, 2017 at 2:34 am

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