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[SteelCurtain]

If you let the markets go underregulated, that's what you get. The blame is not to be shifted away from politics to corporations. If the people wants free markets everywhere, that's exactly what you get. Expecting corporations to become saints in order to preserve your libertarian pipe dream is childish.

Isn't Europe not having this kind of problem or at least not as bad? Would nationalizing things really be that bad?

From my impression, there isn't a national system that is perfect, not even close. But to equivocate the problems of our system with those of the UK and Germany is ludicrous IMO.

Any bureaucracy is going to be fraught with problems, but the idea of people spending 20% - 50% of their annual income on healthcare, or being bankrupted by a trip to the ER after an accident, or getting cancer and having treatment meaning you have to put yourself in a lifetime's worth of debt, or, most damaging, not going to see a doctor at all because you don't have insurance in the first place which is where so many people in America are. That system is broken beyond repair.

Maybe the Republicans are doing us all a favor in basically nuking it. Kick everyone off, kill Medicaid, kill off the mandatory stipulations about mental health coverage, maternity, contraception, cancer screenings, addiction treatment. Let medical coverage be a thing only rich people can afford. Watch ERs fill up with people who "forgot" their ID and are dehydrated from the flu. See the opioid epidemic flourish. We'll see how the populism tone changes. I tend to think most Trump or Die-ers will just say, "It was fucked then and it's fucked now" and just keep the status quo. I highly doubt there will be too much political backlash about this at the polls, but one can hope.