(July 24, 2011 at 5:47 pm)Hurny Wrote:Quote:"Rape" is a crime....in the non-muslim world anyway and abortion is not in the United States.
yea that's true but his whole thing is that what's legal isn't always what is moral or that the law doesn't make morality. He used the example of slavery being at one time legal but now we say it is immoral as well as killing the jews being legal for Nazi's at one time although we know such acts are objectively wrong always he says. I guess his point is that there are objective moral laws that stand outside time and space in a sense I guess.
Is there another way of explaining that something like murdering innocent people (as his example) is wrong without having to concede to his standards of objective truth?
You might want to remind him that both of those are still legal and encouraged according to his 'Holy book'. Actually, rape is as well so he kind of IS pro-rape.