Quote:He has a first amendment right to speak if he wants. The issue is a living, breathing, woman who wants to have control of her own body as opposed to some fucking hypocrite who thinks that a gob of goo somehow trumps that and gives him the right to sentence her to 18 years of hard labor because of his silly-ass god. Citing religious teachings strikes me as stupid because his god is a murderous fuck when he wants to be and he is also representing the views of one of the most immoral bunches of bastards at large in the world today but he DOES have a right to be wrong.
Quote:You might want to remind him that both of those are still legal and encouraged according to his 'Holy book'. Actually, rape is as well so he kind of IS pro-rape.
The thing is that this guy is different like I said. I did use some arguments about a full grown woman vs. a fetus but he knew all these medical facts that he sited like about the fetus having a complete genetic code and everything thing the same as a full grown adult with the only difference being growth and maturity. He even showed me these video's on his I-Phone about about fetal development. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0WNRR-ep...re=related
I wasn't prepared enough for all the details of the abortion argument and I'm still not really sure how to respond to this stuff, but I sort of moved off the abortion topic onto the objective truth thing instead.
His whole thing is that he wasn't quoting from the bible or citing from religious teachings as you say and so when I made any attacks on his faith he simply said these are all things knowable by reason. So I think if I want t be effective with him I am going to have to beat him with reason.