RE: Help with a Catholic
July 24, 2011 at 7:08 pm
(This post was last modified: July 24, 2011 at 7:11 pm by Hurny.)
(July 24, 2011 at 6:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote: What do medical facts have to do with the price of tea?
He is a fanatic. To his way of thinking all that matters is that some woman who he does not know MUST give birth to a child she does not want. He is not helping to raise it. He is not supporting it. He probably votes for Republican shitheads who want to scrap programs which assist such people.
The fetus cannot survive without the mother until, realistically in this country, it graduates high school. Where is you co-worker in all of that? He's out there insisting that more women be forced into poverty because they got knocked up. Fuck him and all those like him. He is not pro-life. He is anti-woman.
yeah I don't know, I mean like I said I want to try to beat him more on the grounds of reason concentrated on his arguments rather then attacks on him or his religion. All that you've mentioned on abortion won't get me very far with him because
1) his church does have programs to help supply women with resources/shelter etc, and while I might not believe in his god I don't think I agree with all of the attacks on his religion because from what he has shown me so far they seem to be pretty decent people.
and 2) his entire argument is based on the objective truth of abortion as murder of a person, so even if they didn't take care of the woman or whatever were still debating on the grounds of whether or not killing a person is ok or not objectivly. So if I could get advice more on those grounds I think it would be helpful