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Help with a Catholic
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RE: Help with a Catholic
(July 24, 2011 at 11:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Yeah that's true, however there is a distinction that he makes which seems true to me which is that although different societies might practice different moralities this does not mean that there isn't one morality.

Uh-huh. And of course it is HIS morality which is the right one.

Minmalist I appreciate all the time you've given me today you've been real generous. Still though I think we are seeing things differently here. I'm really trying to get at the point that he is talking about objective things. I see what you mean when you say 'of course it's his ideas that are right' but that's the whole debate is whether or not what he is saying is true and which side can prove it from logical arguments.

So I guess my question to you is, and please try to just answer the question, - "is there a real objective morality, or is it all personal opinion and nothing is objectivly wrong? Can we say killing an innocent person is actually wrong or is it just a matter of opinion?"

To me all common sense seems to say matter of factly that killing innocent people is objectively wrong. I agree with that and I think most other people do too. The problem that logically follows from this is that there then exists Eternal Objective Moral Values and we have to start asking where did such values come from? Keep in mind what has already been said above so we can try to make progress here.
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Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 24, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 5:41 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 24, 2011 at 5:47 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by TheAtheistTroll - July 24, 2011 at 6:06 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 5:57 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 24, 2011 at 6:22 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by fr0d0 - July 24, 2011 at 6:44 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 6:35 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 24, 2011 at 7:08 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 7:42 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 24, 2011 at 8:08 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by BethK - July 24, 2011 at 9:07 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 24, 2011 at 9:13 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by The Grand Nudger - July 24, 2011 at 7:50 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 9:50 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 24, 2011 at 10:04 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 10:14 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 24, 2011 at 10:30 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Jaysyn - July 26, 2011 at 10:48 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Napoléon - July 26, 2011 at 12:53 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 11:03 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 24, 2011 at 11:16 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 11:29 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 25, 2011 at 12:02 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Judas BentHer - July 25, 2011 at 12:12 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 25, 2011 at 12:34 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 25, 2011 at 12:19 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Kayenneh - July 25, 2011 at 2:43 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by The Grand Nudger - July 25, 2011 at 9:54 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 25, 2011 at 2:19 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 25, 2011 at 10:49 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Godschild - July 26, 2011 at 2:33 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by LastPoet - July 26, 2011 at 6:34 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Anymouse - July 26, 2011 at 6:49 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by The Grand Nudger - July 26, 2011 at 12:47 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 26, 2011 at 5:24 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Jaysyn - July 26, 2011 at 5:52 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 26, 2011 at 9:05 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Godschild - July 27, 2011 at 1:02 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 27, 2011 at 1:32 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Godschild - July 27, 2011 at 2:46 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Napoléon - July 27, 2011 at 10:09 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by The Grand Nudger - July 26, 2011 at 5:59 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Napoléon - July 26, 2011 at 6:15 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by The Grand Nudger - July 26, 2011 at 7:28 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 26, 2011 at 8:10 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 27, 2011 at 2:32 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by The Grand Nudger - July 27, 2011 at 8:44 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by searchingforanswers - July 27, 2011 at 10:37 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by edk - July 27, 2011 at 11:05 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 27, 2011 at 3:49 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by The Grand Nudger - July 27, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by fr0d0 - July 28, 2011 at 1:48 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 27, 2011 at 4:29 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Kayenneh - July 29, 2011 at 8:00 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Faith No More - July 30, 2011 at 12:59 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 29, 2011 at 12:12 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2011 at 1:27 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by fr0d0 - July 29, 2011 at 3:13 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - July 30, 2011 at 2:06 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Kayenneh - July 30, 2011 at 4:30 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Faith No More - July 30, 2011 at 4:44 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Kayenneh - July 30, 2011 at 4:45 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Faith No More - July 30, 2011 at 5:08 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Anymouse - July 30, 2011 at 6:28 am
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Hurny - July 30, 2011 at 1:49 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RE: Help with a Catholic - by Minimalist - August 1, 2011 at 5:14 pm

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