Quote:As for step 1 and 2 you could say the same thing about an atheist or a theist, their step 1 is always belief in God or not, its the same both ways.
Oh, I can't speak for eveyone else but I never say that.
I say that "there is no evidence for any of the gods ever imagined by men." And then occasionally I politely invite them to provide it.
Sometimes, I confess, I am not so polite.
Either way....I'm still waiting.