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Objective morality as a proper basic belief
RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
(July 1, 2017 at 11:29 pm)Little Henry Wrote:
(July 1, 2017 at 10:50 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: This is a strawman. Morality can be arrived at through means of reason rather than emotion, so long as we regard the good life as axiomatic.

I will assume that you, as a Christian, do regard the sanctity of life as axiomatic. Correct if me if I'm wrong on either count.




I think it's wrong for any nation to gas any minority population for any reason.  But that's just me. Clearly the Germans didn't think the same in WWII ... and they were overwhelmingly Christian.

What, again, was your point? That morality is objective based on how we know what we know?

Fact is, humans most often adjudge the morality of any action 1) based on how they sit in the equation, 2) how creepy it makes them feel, and 3) how they've been programmed by their societies.

All three aspects speak to subjectivity.

Rather than toss about spurious crap, make your case for moral objectivity plainly. Quit muddying the waters, and clarify the conversation, if you'd be so kind.
Re reasoning, This presupposes a TRUTH exists, hence OM.

You just cant escape it, no matter how hard you try and dance around it.

Explain, simply, how god giving no regard whatsoever to our consent to be created or terminated in any fashion he so flippantly chooses is 'good'. By definition acting upon someone without their informed consent is a serious violation, and any number of crimes stem from it (rape, fraud, assault). Or is his mere existence above requiring the consent of others? Because you can't get around the fact that it's a violation, all you can do is twist words around and say that a violation isn't wrong if it's at god's hands. Do you not see how you have to fuck the whole concept of morality until it looks like Swiss cheese to make your god fit into it?
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief - by Astonished - July 2, 2017 at 1:32 am

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