(July 3, 2017 at 8:14 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:@ minimalist
Then again as I asked in the body ;assuming you read it ) and my reply. I assume you feel it morally permissible to allow the termination of an otherwise healthy, term infant moments from natural delivery? As a caveat do you believe in the termination of such an infant mere moments after delivery? Yes or no is initially sufficient
I'm sure it would be for you but that is not what you are going to get. Hint- You get to ask questions, you do NOT get to define how they are answered.
As noted earlier, I don't give a fuck about your definition of "morality." If a woman changes her mind at the last moment - and I can think of any number of very valid reasons for doing so - it is her business, not mine, not yours, and certainly not some politician looking to kiss the ass of religious fanatics waving bibles or korans around.
Your second case is a legal issue. Once born the fetus is a person under the law.
I agree, I state that at the ONSET. I ASKED to keep replies on topic and STATED I HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO PREVENT OFF TOPIC REPLIES. Please point to a post where I dicated anything. I have the RIGHT TO ASK, no the POWER TO DEMAND. This is a straw man argument.
I define morality at the metric by which we decide what we should or should not do (and legality as the metric that society dictates what we MUST or MUST NOT do). If you don't give a fuck about my definition then what is yours? Regarding your second point, you still haven't address my argument, only dictated a decree that only the woman has the right. I assume this means you ascribe to the absolute bodily autonomy argument? If so then I assume you feel it morally permissible to terminate a term, viable infant after a woman goes into labor but moments before it emerges from the canal because it is still locationally within the woman's body? If the answer is yes then I don't give a fuck about your moral code either but atleast you are consistent.
Did you read my argument title?? you haven't read the post, but i assumed i sentence would be enough, maybe asking too much? A secular argument for alteration in exciting abortion LAW. By the way you again seem to ascribe to the position that a fetus only obtains human rights when it is physically outside the womb? I have created another thread on this topic if you would like to hash out your position in more detail there as it is unrelated to the argument I have made here but on point there (again I can ASK, I'm not DICTATING, just to make that very clear - smaller words better, ASKING not TELLING, smaller words.. ASK not MAKE.. can't think of smaller words so hope that works)
