(July 3, 2017 at 11:29 am)TheBeardedDude Wrote:(July 3, 2017 at 11:27 am)JackRussell Wrote: Yes, and by me telling somebody I am an atheist it's often funny to see the many things they will then assume about me and my other beliefs. My atheism jut tells you I don't believe in gods, it doesn't tell you squat about anything else I believe, disbelieve or my worldview or any ideology I may or may not hold. That all requires a whole host of further discussion the is too often assumed.
But when somebody say, tells me they are Christian, I am quite happy to take them at their word and discuss beliefs, the funny times is when you meet another one who tells you that what the first one had said means they are not a really a Christian. Does anybody have a reliable "Credible Member of their Faith" detector?
Nope. The definition of Christian is clearly fluid. And that fluidity seems to be specifically so they can label other people as "not really Christian"
Cheers
TheBeardedDude
I guess, one just needs to ask the person who is presenting himself as Christian:
"Are you always ready to (and/or allowed to, in case he is a politician, soldier, lawyer... etc.) love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who despitefully use you, and persecute you".
If his answer is a clear YES then he is a real independent disciple of Jesus Christ; otherwise he is just a follower of a certain Christian organization/system (called a denomination or Church in general) created by men in the name of Jesus..
