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Objective morality as a proper basic belief
RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
(July 5, 2017 at 8:40 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:
(July 5, 2017 at 7:51 pm)Astonished Wrote: So...like, we have no control over ourselves and actions because we'll inevitably repeat our failures no matter how successful we become and return to a standard minimum before starting the cycle over again? Well so much for personal accountability or the idea of free will. Morality becomes completely arbitrary then because it doesn't matter what form it takes, we can perform directly opposite actions but somehow the effect will still result in the same outcome. Fucking psychotic. Impressive how they could believe that without basing it around a deity.

Please note this was not Marx's original idea . Nor did he try and claim it as an ontology. And this was rejected by more libertarian communist . My point is those communist who did believe in it argued it was objective and treated it as such .

Well, duh. It never would have crossed my mind to think it had anything to do with Marx's philosophy. Communism in the Soviet Union was as big a bastardization of the idea of Marx's socialism as the U.S. government is of the ideal democracy.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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There is no better way to convey the least amount of information in the greatest amount of words than to try explaining your religious views.
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RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief - by Astonished - July 5, 2017 at 9:49 pm

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