RE: My question to pro-choice supporters
July 7, 2017 at 8:04 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2017 at 8:19 pm by bennyboy.)
(July 7, 2017 at 6:49 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I disagree with the general tenor of this thread. Child support isn't about penalizing the father, it's about the welfare of the child who had no say in the matter. Raising children is expensive. If you don't provide financial support to the custodial parent, the child suffers. The father made his choice at conception. Fair or not, the parents should not be given rights that negatively impact the welfare of the child.
. . . or the overall welfare of the society when irresponsible actions lead to a burden for all, maybe.
(July 7, 2017 at 5:15 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No reason at all...-and she can have an abortion- or put the child up for adoption...but he can't...again, that's the point.
I think this asymmetry in choice is made up for by the fact that women have to do about 1000% more, even in a healthy married relationship, when it comes to childrearing. The man may have to cough up a portion of his wages; the woman is going to give up the next 18 years of her life, almost 24/7.
Quote:Access to reproductive healthcare is spotty, but this is an argument for improving access, not for enforcing inequality in reproductive choices based on possession of peen. No one is thrusting her into anything, except herself, if she decides -for any reason- to have a baby..and that's her right. No one can force her to abort - again, that's the point. It''s her choice. Her choices carry consequences for her...but probably shouldn't for him. It's a pointless aside anyway..since no one is choosing to have a baby just because they choose to have sex - period.Plenty of girls get pregnant,and decide to keep the baby for moral reasons. That a girl doesn't believe in abortion shouldn't be a life sentence for her and an excuse for the dude. "I OFFERED to pay for an abortion! What else can I DO?" You can pay, and pay, and pay some more, because you've created a human being.
Quote:..............yup, deadbeat, by god, we'll make him pay. Why not go shame some sluts while you're at it? Two people looking to come hard in 2017 and -this- is what they get from society? Epic fail. This sort of baseless moralizing might have had a place before the scalpel was invented......but really, what are we doing, today, in the first world.....maintaining it?In all areas of life, people, especially young people, make mistakes, and they are expected to accept the consequences of their actions. A guy can't say, "I was driving fast because I couldn't resist the excitement. . . but I don't feel like paying for the accident"? Of course not. Any reasonable person knows that no matter how enjoyable and exciting driving fast is, the likely consequence is a crashed car and potential liability.
Why are dumb fucks always so surprised? "You. . . you're PREGNANT? But how? Why?" Answer: you had sex with that girl. That's one of the predictable results of having sex. Now, there's going to be another human being, and small human beings need about 18 years of supervision and support-- and the girl won't be able to do it on her own, and nobody else should HAVE to do it. Maybe the young man doesn't want to sacrifice so much of his life, but the question is-- who else SHOULD do it, and why?
