RE: My question to pro-choice supporters
July 8, 2017 at 2:08 am
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2017 at 2:10 am by bennyboy.)
(July 8, 2017 at 12:16 am)Khemikal Wrote:So now you're a champion of free will, huh? See, I think that society, family and instinct are heavily stacked against the girl "opting" out. . . except when she's lucky enough for them not to be.(July 7, 2017 at 8:04 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I think this asymmetry in choice is made up for by the fact that women have to do about 1000% more, even in a healthy married relationship, when it comes to childrearing. The man may have to cough up a portion of his wages; the woman is going to give up the next 18 years of her life, almost 24/7.Sexist, untrue, and irrelevant. If she doesn't want any part of that she can opt out.
Quote:It's not a sentence, she decided to have the child, and could have decided otherwise - again..not a choice open to the male or even one he has any say in. Still slut shaming. No one "created a human being" they had sex...jesus, lol?It's surprising how many human beings were created by sex. I mean. . . must be like 60% at least, hey? It's almost like. . . sex does that.
Quote:Having sex is not choosing to have a child, I really can't add anything to that and nothing you can say can change it.Driving super fast isn't choosing to end up with your brains on the road, either. And yet it's almost like they seem connected in some subtle, abstract way. Hmmmm. . .
Quote: The consequence of sex is orgasm, not parenthood. Maybe, just maybe, nobody should have that child..or at the very least, whomever is willing to do so should have to "do it".......not those who are unwilling. Basic stuff.And now you're dropping evolution, too? Sex feels good because of a strong relationship to reproductive fitness. . . apparently. If only someone could figure out the relationship, we'd be set. Oh wait. . . I think I might have it. It seems like. . . sex is HOW people reproduce. Go figure.
Quote:Honestly, anybody who wants to engage in this..before they do so..needs to ask themselves if what they're about to say is the argument that they'd feel comfortable with if it were aimed at the female - telling them why they should have no reproductive choice. That has to be step one, because I'm going to take it there every single time, and it -needs- to be taken there.In order to exercise this free will of which you are suddenly champion, there has actually to BE a choice. If for whatever reason the girl decides to keep her baby, then where does that leave the society? Who's gonna foot the bill? The girl alone? Almost impossible. The society-- fuck that, the kid's not mine. The other person involved in the reproductive act? Yeah. . . you might want to protect his rights, but I'd rather protect myself and everyone else from having to pay $400,000 so some punk can get his rocks of on Saturday night.


