(July 9, 2017 at 11:15 am)Astonished Wrote:(July 9, 2017 at 3:29 am)KerimF Wrote: Thank you for being sincere (the greatest priceless gift that a man can give to another).
And it is not bad or wrong that you were never interested in reading even the version of Jesus story from which you gave me your example.
By the way and though you are not interested at all to know, the Will/Power behind my existence (besides the time/space realm, obviously) lets the sun rise on the evil and on the good, and the rain drops on the just and on the unjust. But those who are born of the flesh only, as all other living things are, have no choice but to follow certain rules (called Justice or alike, as Al-Sharia which is applied in some Muslim oil countries that are close allies to the Free Democratic USA) in order to serve the material world; in one way or another, even by pre-emptive wars.
Now, your turn to have fun
I meant; we have to admit that it is always possible that those who are busy to gain their daily bread (they are forming the great majority in the world; theists and atheists) could easily be deceived (to serve a certain agenda) even in the name of science, besides politics and religion.
The first common job of all propaganda (social, sportive, financial, religious and politics) is to let the victims select certain sources (political systems/parties, organizations, institutions, research centres and even historical books) as being their trusted ones anytime they like knowing the truth behind an event or life in general.
For example, is it really that those who planned the spreading of terror against ordinary civilians in the world (not against their powerful/rich families on power) are psychopaths? They are fortunate for having all the necessary means, financially and technically, to brainwash millions of kids around the world and let them be ready, when adult if not earlier, to play the terrorists in their international endless daily series 'War on Terror'.
Sorry for going too far here. So please ignore what I said. After all, I am just an independent observer who is not privileged/recognized by any sort of high class and, therefore, is not supposed to be heard by any person who have to be faithful to his community.
Kerim
Wow, did you hit your head on the diving board and stay under too long?
How did you manage to say absolutely nothing in that many words? That is an amazing feat.
The very fact that you're incapable of identifying religion as propaganda is all the proof anyone needs to realize you're either dull or mentally ill (or both). And yes, those who plan to spread terror by brainwashing others into doing so are psychopaths (and sociopaths because they lack empathy with other human beings in favor of their own privileged selves.) Unfortunately it's possible for this condition to become contagious which few other such conditions can boast. Your victimhood at their hands is plain to see and your refusal to see the strings they've attached to you is proof of how good they are at it; you can only see others as the duped, not yourself, pathetic little puppet.
And I laughed my balls off when you claimed to be an independent observer. A sheep in a flock with its snout stuffed into the arse of another sheep because the pen is so overcrowded they can't move doesn't exactly have a good view of things, dipshit. Seek psychotherapy and medication and come down off your high and maybe, just maybe, you'll make sense for the first time in your life. I won't hold my breath but it sure as hell won't happen any other way.
Where is the problem?
There are millions who also believe, based on solid evidences presented almost daily on their monitors, that today's psychopaths knew, by a miracle perhaps, how to be unreachable and unbeatable by the world's most intelligent people in all continents. Mainly since year 2010, thousands of these psychopaths travel monthly from one place to another without being noticed (even those who have diplomatic passports have no such opportunity).
A formal theist says: A 'ruling' god does exist, while some atheists say: No, god doesn't exist, only very smart psychopaths could exist in our days'.
I mean; please give me evidence

Being a rational man, I personally can't believe that the big bosses of the today's multi-national terrorists (soon in millions) are psychopaths. Thank you.
Kerim